George Nicholls

[NevilleTB]

George Nicholls the sailor. Another perhaps.
1824 - G. Nicholls Second Officer on Deveron departing for Hobart.
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/14912:1602?tid=&pid=&queryId=73429c9259a4670a387123ec43293a36&_phsrc=LxO1485&_phstart=successSource
1859 - Discharged from the Ruby
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1864 – Discharged from the Renmark
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/imageviewer/collections/8814/images/41728_330674-00564?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1557&_phstart=successSource&pId=1018811

George Nicholls from Scotland arrived on the Marilius.[/b][/color] Another possible.
1827 - George Nicholls from Scotland arrived on the Marilius. 7 years transportation.  On 7 May 1840 was listed in a prison admission book.
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/imageviewer/collections/1783/images/32245_223268-00458?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1526&_phstart=successSource&pId=92087
1840 - List of trials in Sydney.
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/imageviewer/collections/5325/images/41725_307731-00086?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=09b78c26378beeebeab06f4c60d7af3f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1527&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=258163
1840 - 7 May. Listed for trial
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/imageviewer/collections/5325/images/41725_307702-00159?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1535&_phstart=successSource&pId=215011

George Nichols on the Elsia. Very little known.
1830 – George Nichols arrived on the Elsia. 28 Jan 1830
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/70533:1783?tid=&pid=&queryId=0e7ef1a9f7acf9d494431ee17843ef9b&_phsrc=LxO1501&_phstart=successSource]]https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/70533:1783?tid=&pid=&queryId=0e7ef1a9f7acf9d494431ee17843ef9b&_phsrc=LxO1501&_phstart=successSource

George Nichols on the Roslyn Castle. Could be
1834 - George Nichols arrived on Roslin Castle Tried 17 Oct 1833 in Middlesex – life
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/imageviewer/collections/1211/images/imaus1790a_081476-00268?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1508&_phstart=successSource&pId=59084
1843 - Ticket of leave. Living in Goulburn
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/imageviewer/collections/1781/images/32084_223229-00279?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1533&_phstart=successSource&pId=38196

[NevilleTB]

George Nichols on the Waterloo. Very little known but if he worked in the post office, he could probably read and write but Sarah could not.
1829 - George Nichols arrived on the Waterloo. Included in the Gaol Admission books 1829 disposed of to post office.
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/475640:1783?tid=&pid=&queryId=0e7ef1a9f7acf9d494431ee17843ef9b&_phsrc=LxO1516&_phstart=successSource

Unknown. The following are random records that may relate to people above or may not.
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1814 - Mrs George Nichols Land Grant 1810 75 ¼ perches on 1 Jan 1814
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/368292:5117?tid=&pid=&queryId=d7a8eb1f5e0b06e0faec232e2be20a11&_phsrc=LxO1457&_phstart=successSource
1843 - George Nichol died in Wilberforce V1843591 27b
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1840 - Ge?? Nicholson died in Liverpool V1840916 24a
https://search.ancestrylibrary.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1779&h=3480374&tid=&pid=&queryId=09b78c26378beeebeab06f4c60d7af3f&usePUB=true&_phsrc=LxO1539&_phstart=successSource
1858 - Prison admission book George Nichols at Darlinghurst
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1859 - George Nicholls in Cumberland Electoral Rolls
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/41161:1310?tid=&pid=&queryId=444273aee64b3e74cc7b2bf5c48eb39b&_phsrc=LxO1552&_phstart=successSource
1858 - G Nicholls in rate book for Waverley
https://www.ancestrylibrary.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/203003:60707?tid=&pid=&queryId=444273aee64b3e74cc7b2bf5c48eb39b&_phsrc=LxO1553&_phstart=successSource

[majm]

Can I suggest you remove the live links from your recent posts, as they do not function for anyone except yourself, but instead take up valuable space.

Agree with Neale.

Ancestry may well have current commercial relationships with NSW State Archives.  I am absolutely sure that if those live links are for images of convict records then the original documents are held at the NSW State Archives, and are likely imaged on reels that are freely available at Kingswood and at various regional ARK centres across NSW and interstate.   It is also likely that the indexes could be available on a number of not for profit family history websites... For example the on-going project here:  https://www.bda-online.org.au/  the subs for that fantastic project is $40 p.a. and the index is freely available without logging in.

JM

[majm]

George Nichols on the Waterloo. Very little known but if he worked in the post office, he could probably read and write but Sarah could not.
1829 - George Nichols arrived on the Waterloo. Included in the Gaol Admission books 1829 disposed of to post office.....

Is it possible that the above George was connected to this chap : https://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/nichols-isaac-2507  and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Nichols     Isaac NICHOLS was the first Post Master General in Sydney Town.     Isaac's mother's given name was Sarah.

JM

[majm]

Hi Neville,

Do you have a birth cert (or an official transcription) for a birth of any of Sarah's children?    Do you have her death cert (or official transcription) ....

Just considering that perhaps she may have come to NSW from overseas, unaccompanied perhaps ... or if you have an official document showing she was born in the colony.   Not every baby born in the early to mid 1800s in NSW was baptised,  not all baptismal records were forwarded to their various denominations Sydney head offices, and not all those records were located when setting up the NSW BDM in 1856.

ADD here is a link to a pdf re the history of the NSWBDM https://www.nsw.gov.au/births-deaths-marriages/about-us/history-of-registry It gives good coverage for the 19th century when so many changes occurred in how life events were registered - so initially in parish/church registers and then commencing mid century with compulsory civil registers, often (particularly with respect to marriage), supported by those church registers.

JM

[NevilleTB]

I am a little confused as to the reason for not including references in the posts. Ancestry Library is freely available online and while there are other sources available, my goal was to leave some preliminary research for someone to build on in the future.

I would have thought it would be better to leave more information than less. No sense reinventing the wheel. There are many hours of research to get to this point so why discard it? Am I not understanding something?

[NevilleTB]

Re George the postmaster, that adds another piece of information. The son George Robert was a lawyer and we thought it unlikely Sarah was related as she could not sign her name. We ruled him out in a previous post.

The marriage record at St. Marks church in 1855 gives no clue to her parents. She may well have been born overseas given there seems no trace of her in Australia. I have searched for free settlers with that name but had no success. She was 20 when married, so could have come out with her parents or with one if the other was a convict.

I don't have any birth certificates. I have a baptism record for Lily Phoebe which is no help. Would it give details of the mother's origin on a child's birth certificate? If so I will get one.

[Ruskie]

I don’t know if space is an issue or not, but all of your links just lead to the same Ancestry Library Edition customer log in page requesting:

Username      
Password      
Welcome to Ancestry Library Edition
Please enter a username and password or click help for assistance

That’s all we see I’m afraid Neville. 

[majm]

Are you sure that Ancestry Library is freely available online? 

I share a snip I have just taken after reading your post :

I am a little confused as to the reason for not including references in the posts. Ancestry Library is freely available online and while there are other sources available, my goal was to leave some preliminary research for someone to build on in the future.

I would have thought it would be better to leave more information than less. No sense reinventing the wheel. There are many hours of research to get to this point so why discard it? Am I not understanding something?

I don't know the answer, but I do know that RChat is global.  Not everyone at RChat would want to complete the process that seems to be required in that snip.    There may well be copyright issues as I would expect that Ancestry would have strict T & C.    RChat has strict T & C  here is the link to RChat's T & C https://www.rootschat.com/forum/terms.php   Stickied on the Australia board here at RChat is a thread about copyright ... : https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=156350.0

JM

ADD ... just read Ruskie's post... yes, that's same as my snip.   I will figure out how to remove the snip shortly.  JM

ADD,  done at 4.30 pm NSW time ... 'Uncheck'