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Clare / Re: Mealy (O'Malley/O'Mealy) of Doonass, Newtown & Killaloe
« on: Monday 27 May 24 23:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi Cassie and all.  Richard here from Australia.  I am trying to put together a history of the O'Mealy family in Australia.  Dinah Elizabeth O'Mealy b 1847 in County Clare married my great great grandfather John Joseph Turner in Melb Australia in 1868.  Dinah died in 1881.  I have identified siblings including Ellen b 1847, Mary b 1849, Marg b 1854, Michael born 1863, and Annie b 1870.  Some went to USA and some to Australia.  Parents were Michael O'Mealy b 1828 and Margarita Fleming b 1830.
I would love to hear from anyone who is connected to the family or has researched them. I'm interested in the stories of each of the siblings and the parents.  A Michael O'Mealy is listed as a witness of Dinah's wedding but I am doubtful it could be Michael her brother as he was too young or Michael her father as i believe he was still in Ireland.  So I wonder if anyone can shed light on who that Michael was please?

Thanks for your help


Richard

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Turner brothers Transported - Tamworth to New South Wale- Who were their parents
« on: Tuesday 07 February 17 07:26 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone explain how I could upload the document showing Margaret Rahiley's name on the death certificate please?

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Turner brothers Transported - Tamworth to New South Wale- Who were their parents
« on: Tuesday 07 February 17 07:24 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Jomot for those baptism records.  The dates seem to match. Interestingly John named one of his children "Henry" but that might not mean anything given how common the names in question were at the time.

One question:  I take it there would be no birth certificates for those children that I could write for.  Registration through BDMs came much later.  Am I correct.  Would there be further information in the church records other than what you found in your data base?  Did you find the baptisms in Family Search, Jonot.

Also I mentioned John Turner's middle name was Charles.  That was reported on his wife's death certificate.

Cheers Richardll

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Turner brothers Transported - Tamworth to New South Wale- Who were their parents
« on: Tuesday 07 February 17 03:33 GMT (UK)  »
Wow.  I'm blown away at the number of responses to my query. Really appreciative and excited that the comments will lead me to uncover very useful information about the family.  This morning I received some further information from the Victorian State Library here. The librarian has searched the hospital records for John Charles Turner one of the two brothers transported.  This internal hospital record states that his mother was May Wright.  This contrasts to the information on his death certificate stating his mother was Margaret Rahiley (Reilly perhaps).
His birthplace was again listed as Tamworth Staffordshire and his father as William. (See transcript below). I have begun searching for the marriage of May Wright and William Turner but no luck yet.

Thanks for your help
Richard
Copy of transcript for John Turner:
Name:   Turner. John                               
Occupation: Labourer       
Birthplace: Tamworth,Staffordshire England            
Age when admitted: 77             
Parents names:    Father: Turner. William, Labourer Mother: Wright. May   

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Turner brothers Transported - Tamworth to New South Wale- Who were their parents
« on: Sunday 05 February 17 11:54 GMT (UK)  »
http://Hi again Ruskie and thanks for your comments:
1.  1841 Census.  Yes a lot of William Turners.  Looking through that list again and will look for Locksmiths.
2.  NSW convict docs.  Have researched those with no real extra info.  Am going to go back through each again though just to be sure.
3.  Turner/Reilly marriage in Staffordshire.  Yes have been searching for that but no luck yet.  Maybe they married elsewhere and then moved to Staffordshire??
4.  Clarifying the Mother's name on death certificate.  I will attach the certificate once I work out how Ruski.

Cheers
Richard

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Re: Turner brothers Transported - Tamworth to New South Wale- Who were their parents
« on: Saturday 04 February 17 21:13 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Ruskie.  Thanks for your response.  I will refresh my efforts to find William's death certificate.  It has evaded me for a long time, but I will go back and try again.  Unfortunately William and John both were married while convicts in the early 1840s so the marriage records I have found do not include parent's names or locations.  I will attempt to see if there are church records other than the marriages indexes.  I have  been able to only find limited information on William Turner and Elizabeth Holland's life after marriage.  I'd be very interested in liaising with any other decedents of William and Elizabeth.  However, because of the dead ends here, I turned to chasing information in Tamworth and Stafford, England to see if there is information in English records about their family and circumstances.   Cheers Richard

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Staffordshire Lookup Requests / Turner brothers Transported - Tamworth to New South Wale- Who were their parents
« on: Saturday 04 February 17 12:04 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.  Thanks for helping me with this request.  My 3 greats grandfather John Charles TURNER b abt 1811 was transported to New South Wales in 1829 on the Mellish.  He was transported with his older brother,  William b 1808 I believe in Tamworth, Staffordshire.  On his death certificate his parents are noted as William Turner and Margaret, formerly Rahiley or Reilly?? perhaps.  It is very hard to read the surname on the certificate. 

They were convicted on 19 March 1828 at Stafford Assizes for housebreaking, and sentenced to 20 years. A local newspaper reported the trial (Staffordshire Advertiser on 22nd March 1828).  In 1929 they were transported to New South Wales and I doubt either ever saw Staffordshire again.

I am trying to understand more about their family in Staffordshire; confirm who their parents were and where they lived when John and William were charged.  Unfortunately I have little further info about the family or their whereabouts.  The brothers were cabinet locksmiths before their conviction and their shipping records reported they were protestants.

I'm wondering if there might be some local information that would illuminate details about their family and location before their transportation.

Thank you for helping.

Richard





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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Now where is that lollie shop?
« on: Tuesday 15 November 16 23:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Caroline.  Thanks for your post.  Maps are very interesting and I'm sure this dialogue will extend my understanding considerably.  Am just working my way through the maps and other resources you mention.  I haven't had time to explore them in detail yet.  I wanted to get back to you to ask a couple of questions that have occurred to me.  You mentioned that the Bromwell's  Road is different today and goes in a different direction.  Without looking at the new maps in detail, I recall the original road did curve around to the south at the eastern end and joined Clapham High Street .  However during my visit in Oct 16 I thought that at the end of Bromells Road that meets The Pavement remains in the same place as it was originally.  Bromells Road still is there at the Pavement end, However it has been changed and at the other end does not curve around to Clapham High Street anymore.  Is that as you see it? 

The Bromell's Building at Number 10 Bromells Road would be closer to the junction of Bromells Road with The Pavement.  Does that sound correct to you. I could not locate the Bromell's Building while I was in London.  Maybe it has been demolished.  Do you know if that is the case and when it occurred, Caroline?  I was assuming the building was still there but had been modified into new offices.  Perhaps that is not correct?

Cheers
Richard

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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Now where is that lollie shop?
« on: Sunday 11 September 16 23:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Roseanne.  Richard here.  I have an interest too in the Bromells Building and I just saw your post.  My relative, William Ransom was a hairdresser in the Bromell Buildings in 1867.  I'm also from Australia (Brisbane) and this week am in London.  You wouldn't believe this but I was taking photos in Bromells Road yesterday. 

It sounds like your confectionary shop and Williams hairdressing shop may have been next door to each other.  12 and 11 respectively.  William died in 1875, but his wife Ann (previously Hibberd) continued to live in Bromells Road for a short period before moving to a nearby street, 23 Temperley Road, Clapham.

I'm not sure you will get this message given the length of time since you posted.  Certainly hope we can make contact.  I will also go back to Bromells Road before returning home to Australia and if the buiding still stands I will take photos for you.  I can be contact here or on (*)

Cheers Richard

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