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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 23 February 06 06:34 GMT (UK) »
The worst problem is when Ancestry get the first letter wrong, it makes it so hard to find.
Not a major part of my tree, but I was trying to Find Alice Kench's family, ther is one lot trascribed Rench, and another as Kinch.

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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 14 June 06 20:54 BST (UK) »
It took me ages to find my Grandma Moss
on the 1901 - no wonder she had suddenly
become a Moos!
I wasn't aware that the latter of these names
was so popular, until I typed it into Ancestry for
curiosity. Lo and behold - lots of them, all looking
suspiciously like Moss to me!!

Pels  :o
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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 29 June 06 12:07 BST (UK) »
I can't use Ancestry. It makes my blood pressure go up. Why do they keep estimating the birth year? So often they have it wrong, and why must the names be in alphabetical order? Why can't we have it like it is on the census form?
And WHY did my great grandfather William come from Hobberaam when it was Hubberston?
The LDS can get it right, why not Ancestry?
I had a months free trial with my Family Tree Maker, but gave up after two weeks from sheer frustration. Silly, I know, but that's me, a silly old bird. :)
Bartlett/Henley on Thames
Caponhurst/Buckinghamshire and?
Denchfield/North Marston/Bucks
Webb/Winchester
Mathias/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
John/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
Smith/Portsmouth/Portsea
Purchas/Bucks and?
Olliffe/Bucks

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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #66 on: Friday 07 July 06 08:48 BST (UK) »
I am so frustrated with Ancestry.com.   Not one of my ancestors on the 1841 census has been transcribed correctly.  I thought this would be a good place to let of steam ;D

For the name Grimes - I have had Grethem and Barmes.
For the name Peers - Purs, Peare, Piers and Perre.
For the name Beetchenow - absolutely nothing.  I have tried all variations but no luck.  I have had some wonderful help from people on rootschat and a couple of other forums - otherwise I wouldn't have found them at all.

Now I feel better having written this ;D

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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #67 on: Friday 07 July 06 09:16 BST (UK) »
I was annoyed that Booth was transcribed as Both.

Then I looked more clearly, the enumerator had written Both.

Bob
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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #68 on: Friday 07 July 06 18:33 BST (UK) »
I was annoyed that Booth was transcribed as Both.

Then I looked more clearly, the enumerator had written Both.

Bob

Bob

Thanks for admitting this !!

Not everyone realises that the process involved a schedule being given to the householder, to be filled in by them, or, sometimes with the later assistance of the enumerator, if the householder had problems; not necessarily in terms of illiteracy, more that this was probably the only time in their life that the Head was presented with such a form which had to be filled in.  (In Scotland, these schedules were then destroyed, but they still exist in Northern Ireland for 1901 and 1911.)

Soooo....

#1 chance for error to creep in, - what the Head wrote, or what the enumerator wrote in the schedule.  And take into account that surname spellings were quite flexible at that time.

Then the enumerator had to collect all the schedules and transcribe these into the enumeration books with which we are familiar.

#2 chance for error to creep in, - the enumerator's transcription, - done under pressure of time, and, for most of the Victorian censuses, - by candelight or similar, i.e. before the advent of gaslight or electric light.  He didn't get paid until he submitted the completed enumeration books!, and there was a tight deadline.

#3 chance for error to creep in, - any and all later indexes created from the original enumeration books. 

And however much indexing sub-contractors in the Indian sub-continent or Asia are trained and given lookup tables for forenames, surnames, and places, there's no substitute for being a native of the country with a long knowledge of names and places (witness the initial LDS classification of all entries from Scotland in Sutherland under "Sunderland" - since corrected in later editions, - but I've only just recently come across entries in "Leith, Middlesex", which I know have to be Midlothian!!)


Some years ago in SoG's now defunct Computers in Genealogy Barney Tyrwhitt-Drake had an article relating to a street in the Greater London area which was included in two different enumeration districts (let's not get into how the households were persuaded to complete two schedules!).

The comparison between these separate enumerations of the same households was frightening in terms of major differences.

I've recently been provided with the details of a similar "double enumeration" in Scotland, and it would surprise me if there aren't similar major differences.

I've previously come across a situation in Glasgow where an enumerator did a draft of his area, and then presumably went back to his supervisor and asked for a new book, only to be told "nae chance mate, use the one that you have!", so scored out all the entries, and re-entered his fair copy ..... which differs in some details from his draft !! (LDS policy when microfilming/digitising is to include all pages.)

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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #69 on: Friday 29 September 06 18:46 BST (UK) »
HI there just thought I'd  put my twopenneth in -

If you're searching for a Henry on Ancestry - (or a Fleury or a Fanny) don't forget to search under "Henny"

For Cook - try Cock (no honestly!)

 Oh and don't forget the extra "r" in  Harmmersmith !

  Cheers Sadietoo
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Hampshire: Chandler

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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 05 October 06 17:08 BST (UK) »
May I add to the list of clangers.
I've been looking at the surname Llewellen.
It's bad enough that the last vowel can also be an I or a Y but Ancestry have transcribed a great number of surnames which should begin with a double L as SL
I'm not altering that lot!
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Re: Incorrect Census transcriptions on Ancestry
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 05 October 06 19:36 BST (UK) »
Good old Ancestry, they really do have a field day with the Welsh names.
I've just seen an advert for them on Sky tele. Trace your ancestors...
Yeah, a Rose by any other name............. ::)
Bartlett/Henley on Thames
Caponhurst/Buckinghamshire and?
Denchfield/North Marston/Bucks
Webb/Winchester
Mathias/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
John/Pembroke/Pembroke Dock
Smith/Portsmouth/Portsea
Purchas/Bucks and?
Olliffe/Bucks