emma green beaumont b 1850 look up request glossop derbyshire

[hobnob123]

You have me a little confused between Glossop, Hayfield and Golcar and where and when and why    It could be that the Emma Beaumont I gave the birth for is the Emma who is with the Cromptons.
Note that Alice Crompton, as well as having a Holmfirth connection, is not just housekeeper but mother to Charles.
There is also an Emma Beaumont in Golcar, born Golcar 1851, but with parents William and Mary, siblings Mary, Nancy, Martha, William.
Also an Emma Beaumont who is a servant in Huddersfield, born Huddersfield 1850.
If you can clarify where the family, particularly your Emma, was born and where and when they moved, we might be able to do an 1861 look up more easily.  Perhaps you could give the full 1871 census and that might help.

Mary

I Think this is the same Emma as well don't get me wrong ; my interest in Golcar is merely that she turns up there in the 81c married to Charles Walkden having married him in 1874 and that Golcar then continued to be the hometown of the Walkdens well into this century.
I keep saying Glossop mainly because i am indoctrinated with this being Emma's birthplace due to the 1881 census-i fully appreciate it is more precise to say Hayfield.
Aah yes i hadn't noticed that thanks , so maybe Alice could be the sister of Martha,wife of John Beaumont. I don't know Martha's maiden name but her age is similar to Alice!?
Hopefully when my fellow Beaumont  correspondent gets involved he will be able say something about these others.
Ps How do you make those smileys work?
Paul

[hobnob123]

Hi Hobnob123:
Just have been reading your message re Beaumonts.  Have you done a lot of research on the Beaumont surname? The reason I am asking is that I have a Ruth Beaumont  who married John Crosland 1829 in Almondbury.  They lived in Wooldale, Yks as well I have them on the 1841 and 1851 census living there.  John Crossland and Ruth Beaumont are my 3xgrgrandparents.

Have you come across a Ruth Beaumont in your search. I don;t have much information yet on Ruth's or John's families yet.


Anne
Canada

Hi hopefully a person who has researched the Beaumont name(has 65,000 I think) in the area will be viewing these posts(I sent him the link) and he will read your post and hopefully get back to you.

[hobnob123]

Hi Hobnob123:
Just have been reading your message re Beaumonts.  Have you done a lot of research on the Beaumont surname? The reason I am asking is that I have a Ruth Beaumont  who married John Crosland 1829 in Almondbury.  They lived in Wooldale, Yks as well I have them on the 1841 and 1851 census living there.  John Crossland and Ruth Beaumont are my 3xgrgrandparents.

Have you come across a Ruth Beaumont in your search. I don;t have much information yet on Ruth's or John's families yet.


Anne
Canada

Hi Anne ,
Lenny is not  signed up to Rootschat but he had a look at your posting and he said to me the following..

"With regards to your Ruth Beaumont inquirer. I know of the marriage and that they both came from Austonley. If your researcher could forward me the census details ie the family and  Ruth's age. I will see if I can identify her, but no promises, it is differcult at times to identify female lines when they marry pre census."

You can contact Lenny at  lenny.beaumont@ntlworld.com

Regards
Paul

[hobnob123]

You have me a little confused between Glossop, Hayfield and Golcar and where and when and why    It could be that the Emma Beaumont I gave the birth for is the Emma who is with the Cromptons. 

Note that Alice Crompton, as well as having a Holmfirth connection, is not just housekeeper but mother to Charles.

There is also an Emma Beaumont in Golcar, born Golcar 1851, but with parents William and Mary, siblings Mary, Nancy, Martha, William.

Also an Emma Beaumont who is a servant in Huddersfield, born Huddersfield 1850.

If you can clarify where the family, particularly your Emma, was born and where and when they moved, we might be able to do an 1861 look up more easily.  Perhaps you could give the full 1871 census and that might help.

Mary

Hi Mary I have talked to the Beaumont researcher and all he said was the following about Emma...
"I think you will find that she is an illegitimate daughter of maybe Mary or Martha (the daughters of Martha.)- the other elder sisters claiming to be her Aunts. Green is more then likely her reputed father's name/surname?? The only way you are going to prove the mother is by getting a birth certificate. Martha is Martha Hinchliffe married to John Beaumont"
I have asked  him a few more questions  but this is all he said so far; as i don't know how to get her birth certificate I'm stuffed for the moment!

Paul

[MaryA]

There is an Emma Beaumont registered June qtr 1850 Hayfield Derbyshire Ref 19 652

If you think this is your Emma then you can order the birth certificate online at www.gro.gov.uk using the above information, cost of £7.

Mary

[hobnob123]

I have just received the birth certificate for Emma Green registered June qtr 1850 Hayfield Derbyshire Ref 19 652 and it says the mother is Mary Beaumont as suspected . There is no father on the certificate.Emma was born 15\3 \ 1850 Greenvale Whitfield. Thankyou  everyone for your help .

[emjayf]

I don't suppose any of you would have any info about Beaumonts would you?  I had a relation - Alice Maud(e) Beaumont that married John Gibson Fouldes in 1912.

I have a few photo's and postcards that she's kept in her old books.  However she hasn't labelled a lot of them.  They could be Fouldes - or Beaumonts or just friends!  I don't know, but if anyone has pics of the Beaumonts and knows what they look like then let me know and you may be able to help!!

Cheers

M J Fouldes