1888/1866 look up help please

[cazza]

GG grandparents-1888 John Morrison a miner formerly of High Street Clackmannan married Isabella Swanson a millworker from Broadstreet.
John's Father was Henry Morrison a shoemaker who according to marriage certificate was deceased and his mother was Marjory ne Snaddon also deceased .
I have managed to trace Isabella's birth certificate also in the Clackmannan County in May 1866 fathers name John Swanson cannot make out occupation and mothers name Janet ne Gray who were married 12th/?/ 1851
I have details of children born to John & Isabella from 1891 census & 1901 census: they are
Henry circa 1889
John circa 1890
Jessie 1891
May (mary) depending on which record you look at 1892.
I am trying to find more details for either side of the family either around this time or prior and have become stuck. Any help or advice really appreciated

[Little Nell]

Hi cazza,

This is Isabella with her family in 1881:

Broad Street Alloa, Clackmannan
SGRO Vol465 ED 8  p13
   
John SWANSTON Head M 50 M b Sauchie, Clackmannan Labourer
Janet SWANSTON wife M 49 F b Kincardine, Perth
Mary SWANSTON dau U 20 F b Alloa, Clackmannan
Janet SWANSTON dau U 16   F b Alloa, Clackmannan
Isabella SWANSTON dau U 14 F b Alloa, Clackmannan
John SWANSTON son 12 M b Alloa, Clackmannan Scholar
James SWANSTON son 10 M   b Alloa, Clackmannan Scholar
Agnes SWANSTON dau 7 F b Alloa, Clackmannan Scholar
Jane GRAY Mother in law W 74 F b Airth, Stirling

This could be John in 1881, but without a rough date of birth I can't be certain.  However, the occupation fits and the location:

Water Mill Clackmannan
SGRO Ref Vol 466 ED 3 p10

Joseph WHITE Head M 33 M b Clackmm, Clackmannan   Coal Miner
Isabella WHITE wife M 34 F b Clackmm, Clackmannan
Joseph WHITE son 12 M b Clackmm, Clackmannan Half Time Mill Worker
Isabella WHITE dau 10 F b Clackmm, Clackmannan, Scholar
Margaret WHITE dau 7 F b Clackm, Clackmannan Scholar
William WHITE son 5 M b Clackm, Clackmannan Scholar
Henry WHITE son   2 M b Clackm, Clackmannan
James WHITE son 1 M b Clackm, Clackmannan
Jane WHITE sister U 22 F b Clackm, Clackmannan Worker At Paper Mill
John MORRISON bro in law 14 M b Clackm, Clackmannan Coal Miner
Elizabeth KING Visitor 5  F b Dunfermline, Fife

Hope this might help you.

The 1871 census is available to view at http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (£6 for 30 credits).

Nell

[cazza]

Little Nell Thankyou I will definately look again at the SGRO everything points to the right information for Isabella as her marriage certificate definately states Broadstreet . I can't make out the address on her Birth certificate looks like West V???something Alloa??
On the SGRO when I looked up the  1891 census there are 2 entries for an Isabella Morrison which she would have been by then one aged 26 Alloa and one aged 24 Clackmannan both suprisingly married to a John Morrison which completly threw me the only way I could tell the right one was John by Johns profession as a miner and by the address of high street which is Johns address on the wedding certificate

[maclennan25]

hopefully some of the following might be useful.....


HENRY MORRISON 
  Male   
  Spouse:  MARJORY SNADDEN
  Marriage:  29 AUG 1859   Alva, Stirling, Scotland
 
MARGARET COWAN MORRISON 
  Female     
 Birth:  24 SEP 1862   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
  Father:  HENRY MORRISON   
  Mother:  MARJORY SNADON 

JOHN MORRISON 
  Male     
 Birth:  27 NOV 1866   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
  Father:  HENRY MORRISON   
  Mother:  MARJORY SNADON 

ELIZABETH MORRISON 
  Female     
 Birth:  08 OCT 1870   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
  Father:  HENRY MORRISON 
  Mother:  MARJORY SNADON 


scotlandspeople have 1 match (death records) for marjory morrison other surnames snadon in clackmannan, clackmannan. 1872 aged 40 years. which puts her being born c1832. i have not actually viewed these certs though, so cant be certain it is definitely the correct match.
there are 3 entries on igi for her birth but all are submitted records, but 2 of these have her death listed 1872, so maybe somebody else is researching the same line???


also have 1 match (death records) for henry morrison in clackmannan, clackmannan in 1877 aged 52 years. which puts him being born c1825. - again, i havent actually viewed this cert, so it might not be the correct one that you are looking for.


this could be their youngest daughter in 1881 living with a "king" family. -on one of the other messages John was with "white" family, but the visitor also had the surname "king".

Dwelling:   Rd Leading From Alloa To Kincardine On Forth
   Census Place:   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203535     GRO Ref    Volume 466    EnumDist 4    Page 5
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Elizabeth KING   W   66    F   Kincardine, Perth, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Farm Worker
Elizabeth KING   U   25    F   Irvine, Ayr, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Paper Overhauler
Sarah PATERSON   M   21    F   Stewarton, Ayr, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
Elizabeth MORRISON    11    F   Clackmn Parish Of, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Rel:   Niece
   Occ:   Scholar
Henry PATERSON       9 m   M   Clackmn Parish Of, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Rel:   Grandson
Robert SCOBIE   W   43    M   Clackmn Parish Of, Clackmannan, Scotland
   Rel:   Brother In Law
   Occ:   Worker In Tonroom


ROBERT KING 
  Male 
  Spouse:  ELISABETH MORRISON 
  Marriage:  OCT 1840   New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
 

ELIZABETH KING 
  Female     
 Birth:  25 SEP 1855   Irvine, Ayr, Scotland
  Father:  ROBERT KING 
  Mother:  ELIZABETH MORRISON 

WILLIAM KING 
  Male     
 Birth:  27 MAR 1858   Irvine, Ayr, Scotland
  Father:  ROBERT KING 
  Mother:  ELIZABETH MORRISON 

SARAH KING 
  Female     
 Birth:  05 APR 1860   Stevenston, Ayr, Scotland
  Father:  ROBERT KING
  Mother:  ELIZABETH MORRISON 
_________________________________________________________

and the white/morrison connection:

JOSEPH WHITE 
  Male 
  Spouse:  ISABELLA MORRISON 
  Marriage:  18 JUL 1868   Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland
_____________________________________________________________

so it appears that henry morrison had sisters isabella and elizabeth. - hopefully that should help track down his birth.
 i couldnt find his birth on the igi, but these are possible for siblings....... (but probably wishful thinking).


ISABELLA MORRISON 
  Female     
 Birth:  19 NOV 1846   
 Christening:  06 DEC 1846   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
  Father:  HENRY MORRISON 
  Mother:  ISABELLA HENDERSON 
 
SARAH MORRISON 
  Female     
 Birth:  23 NOV 1849   
 Christening:  09 DEC 1849   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
  Father:  HENRY MORRISON   
  Mother:  ISABELLA HENDERSON 



kind regards,
Lorna.

[maclennan25]

igi also has this:

ROBERT SCOBBY 
  Male   
  Spouse:  HELEN MORRISON 
  Marriage:  27 AUG 1852   Clackmannan, Clackmannan, Scotland
 
there was a robert scobie living at the same address as elizabeth king and he was listed as her brother in law. but the age doesn't quite match. - if the age in 1881 census is correct, he married when he was 14...... but i suppose the 1881 age could be wrong. 

kind regards,
Lorna.