Skippages in West Wratting

[47jonno]

I'm after more details regarding Charles Skippage (married Eliza Twinn in 1841).
From preliminary census data:
It looks like the 1841 entry is
SKIPPAGE Charles 20 West Wratting HO107/71/12 13B
SKIPPAGE Eliza 20 West Wratting HO107/71/12 13B
Perhaps they got married just days before the census! But they are missing from 1851.

and this one looks interesting for 1851 - as potential parents of Charles (but where were these 2 in 1841?)
SKIPPAGE John 62 West Wratting HO107/1761 422A
SKIPPAGE Susan 62 West Wratting HO107/1761 422A

Perhaps Eliza Twinn's parents were in WW too (or nearby at Duxford possibly?)

Any help would be gratefully received.
Regards John

[suffolk*sue]

This looks like the marriage of John and Susan, from Boyds index.


1810  /SKIPPAGE  JOHN / STARLING  SUSAN/  WRATTING WEST / CAMBRIDGESHIRE 



 

[suffolk*sue]

Have you got Charles marriage ref.


Charles Skippage
Eliza Twinn

June, qtr. - 1841
Linton
Vol 14
Page 147



 

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi John

If you just type the first 3 or 4 letters of the surname in the Cambs FHS index search it will pick up spelling variations – like Skippago and Twin

1841
West Wratting
Charles Skippage 20 ag lab
Eliza Skippage 20
Both born Cambs
Living in same house but shown as a separate household
Paul Webb 75 ag lab b in cambs
Elizabeth Webb 55 b in Cambs

West Wratting
John Skippago 50  ag lab Not born in Cambs
Sarah Skippago wife 50 born in Cambs



1851
West Wratting
John Skippage head marr 62 ag lab born Hadstock Essex
Sarah Skippage wife 62 born Weston Colville Cambs

1861
RG9/1030 folio 102
High St, West Wratting
Charles Skippage head marr 42 ag lab b West Wratting
Mary Skippage wife 45 b Stetchworth Cambs
Caroline Skippage dau unmarr 17 servant b West Wratting
Mary Ann  ?ume? dau in law 13 scholar b Stetchworth
William Barker son in law 10 scholar b Stetchworth
Benjamin Barker son in law 8 scholar b Barrow Cambs
Dau in law also meant step dau.

The baptism index on the Cambs FHS site shows Eliza Twin in 1821 dau of James and Elizabeth Twin

1841
West Wratting
James Twin 45 ag lab
Elizabeth Twin 40
William Twin 22; James 13; Thomas 9; Judith 6; Richard 3

1851
West Wratting
James Twinn head marr 56 ag lab b Duxford
Elizabeth Twinn wife 50 b Balsham Cambs
Thomas Twinn son unm 18 ag lab b W Wratting
Judith Twinn dau 15 b W Wratting
Richard Twinn son 12 ag lab b W Wratting
Betsy Twinn dau 9 b W Wratting

FreeBMD (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl) has a death of Eliza Skippage in the Sept quarter 1852 in Linton registration district which includes West Wratting. There's also a marriage in the Dec quarter 1859 in Linton reg district between Charles Skippage and Mary Barker

The full 1851 should be back online in a couple of weeks – remind me then and I’ll see if Charles was living outside Cambs.

Regards

David

[47jonno]

David

Many thanks for diligent and prompt reporting!!

The 1861 census result is fascinating as I reckon that Eliza had died in 1854 and by 1861 widower Charles (if it is the same one) had remarried Mary Barker (who may herself have been a widow) hence children of Mary's first marriage also at the same address. I wonder where she (Mary Barker) was in 1841 and 1851 (and presumably there is a death record of her first husband). Presumably any siblings of Caroline had moved on by 1861. I wonder where Charles and Eliza and family were in 1851.

[By coincidence a separate response to my several queries has revealed a Mary Barker marrying a Robert Skippage in 1834 - but when widowed (if that is the case) she would have been Mary Skippage upon any new marriage - wouldn't she?]. What chance Charles married his brother's widow?

I reckon that Stretchworth was home to several Skippage families and the 1861 census has kinda united them! Similarly there are the Hadstock Skippages and (if they are the correct parents of Charles) it seems that in 1841 John was settled in WW with wife Sarah. I had other potential parents as John and Susan (m 30Nov1810 at WW). If different, where were these 2 in 1841 etc, I wonder?

Thanks again for exploring all this. If you are inspired to look further then thanks again in advance.

Regards John

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi John

A widow is married under her married name so Mary Skippage, widow of Robert would have been married as Mary Skippage formerly Barker, so you can probably rule her out.

If you check the baptism index on the Cambs FHS site, whose link I gave you earlier, you will see Charles Skippage baptised in 1819 which fits his age in 1861, son of John and Susanna (earlier baptisms for this couple give her name as Susan).  Diligent and prompt perhaps. Accurate no! I'm sorry, I've just realised I made a typo re the 1841 and 1851 entries - it should have been Susan, not Sarah, in each case. You doubtless saw it was Susan in the index.  This makes sense of the baptism entry.

You should be able to piece together the family to a large extent from the baptism/burial indexes.

Regards

David