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CUSTANCE - Luton
« on: Tuesday 18 October 05 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Does anybody have any information on the Custance family from Luton
and further back dunstable?

In particular a certian Thomas Custance born around 1860 in Luton.

Thanks
Jimbo

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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Jimbo,

I don't know this family but I can see them in 1871.
If you'd like the details, let me know RG10/1573 66 18

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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 16:55 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Yes please, i would like full details if possible.
Thanks
Jim

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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 17:14 BST (UK) »
1871
Reference as above
12 Burr Street, Luton
Thomas Custance, head, 31, Blocker, b. Dunstable
Sarah, wife, 30, Sewer, b. Luton
Thomas, son, 10, scholar, b. do.
James, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Rose, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
Harry, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
Ellen, dau, 2, b. do.
Sarah, dau, 2, weeks, b. do.

and - bonus  ;D
1861
RG9/1012 111 15
Luton, Bedfordshire
5 Bailey (Field Cottages?)

Thos Custance, head, 21, Labourer, b. Dunstable
Sarah, wife, 20, Bonnet sewer, b. Luton
Wm, son, 2, b. do.
Thos, son, 6mths, b. do.

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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 17:21 BST (UK) »
And this seems to be little William in 1871

RG10/1574 7 5
Luton, Bedfordshire

Phebe Scrivener, wife, mar, 68, Plaiter
James, son, unm, 22, Labourer
William Custance, lodger, 12, Bonnet sewer

Everybody born Luton.
 
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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 17:24 BST (UK) »
Coincidence?

FreeBMD has a marriage in June 1860 at Luton:
Thomas Custance, wife either Sarah Simpson or Sarah Scrivener   :D
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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 17:34 BST (UK) »
The IGI at www.familysearch.org has the following extracted christening:
Sarah Scrivener
Christening 11 APR 1841   Saint Mary, Luton, Bedford 
  Father:  PETER SCRIVENER 
  Mother:  PHOEBE     
Batch C016752

+ christening of 3 other children born to the same parents.

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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 October 05 12:47 BST (UK) »
check out the http://blars.adlibsoft.com/form.html

There is a death for a Thomas in the Luton district:

Deaths Mar 1876

Custance  Thomas [age] 37  Luton  3b 297   

Sounds like he is young Thomas's father?

See: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
Bedfordshire: Worker [Flitton]; Ames [Kempston]; Manton [Kempston]; Morris [?]; Valentine [Kempston]; Two & Osborn [Cranfield]

Herfordshire and West London: Brown [Kent in early 19th C]; Blackwell.
McCarthy [Clonakilty, County Cork - searching for needles in the haystack!] and LOSTY [Dublin]

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Re: Custance - Luton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 September 09 04:02 BST (UK) »
I have  a family called Custance (as of the 1881 census ) in luton...but ALL of their birth records and marriage records show their surnames as Scrivener

I can trace them before 1881 using Scivener for the census too.

 In particular I have the birth cert for Gertrude Dora Scrivener born 1892 showing her address as the same address as gertrude Custance's family in the census before and after her birth so it is the same family.

I just don't know why her father William Scrivener born 1858 and his wife Emma Oakley born 1855 started using the surname Custance as of the 1881 census.


To add to the confusion there was a william custance born a couple of years out from my william , also in luton , but i have located him elsewhere. Unfortunately people seem to presume that my william is that one and add these scrriveners into their custance trees .

The custance and scrivener families of Luton both went to the same church - St Mary's, Luton so the two families could well have known each other.

Does anyone know why william changed his name? was he adopted by the Sciveners as a child? This is possible as both he and many of sibling's birth records can't be located.  Can anyone please explain this mystery?