CUSTANCE - Luton

[jimbohodge]

Hi Tieke,
My research suggests that your William (born 1858); was born before the marriage of his parents (Thomas Custance and Sarah Scrivener, 1860); hence, being named Scrivener at birth.

I'm guessing once he was old enough; he got his name legally changed to that of his father's; or 'just started using it'.

Your William was certainly the eldest brother of My Thomas (born 1860).

I have loads more info on the family; if you are interested, PM me with your Email address.

Jim

[Tieke]

thanks.  - Makes sense , but can we be sure thomas is the father rather than step-father?  i've sent my email address to you privately.

For anyone reading this in the future - I should have said 1891 in my post not 1881 ...oops.

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hi, i'm adding this bit a day or two later:

looking at births for william scrivener (later william custance) we have three options.

1)William Kitely Scrivener registered Sep 1856 - Luton
2)William Scrivener registered Sep 1857 - Luton
3)William Smith Scrivener registered Dec 1858 - Luton


the last one's christening record shows his father as James Scrivener, so he's the one on 1871 census i tracked by mistake with mother eliza.

the first one is a little early but not unreasonable

the second one matches the ages in the census so is most likely but not 100% without ordering it and checking the mother's name - and it won't tell me the father anyway. what I need is a church record in the hope of an unofficial comment by the priest as I have seen on some others.

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[cusancia]

The Dunstable / Luton "Custance's" have their origins in a continous line back to Cambridgeshire to a  Robert Custance born abt 1500.

[cusancia]

The Parish Records for Dunstable give a baptism date for James, son of James Custance and Sarah [Summerfield] 21 June 1801.
Who is James Robert Eggleston Custance ?

[Tieke]

just a side note of interest on thomas custance and sarah scrivener...

they were mentioned above as living on Burr St...slightly interesting that i have traced her ancestry to an Elizabeth Burr. Also interesting the family living at bailey cottages as the national archives has a document linking peter scrivener (her father) to a transfer of land  / 1000 year lease where the land was called bailey field.

[Tieke]

bedfordshire/luton council have the doc i mention above plus two others i've found so far. one mentions bailey cottages and says that peter scrivener is deceased at the time of the document being 13 jan 1863. (he died somewhere between 8 oct 1859 and 13 jan 1863 based on their docs)

[cusancia]

Hi Lin
Thanks for your reply. this is a mistranscription on the IGI, not uncommon.
Dunstable Parish Records states; James Custance and Mary King maried Oct 25 1824.
Lakenham PR's state; Robert Eggleston and Mary Fisk married Oct 13 1824.
I think the researcher for the IGI had a bad day !!!
Norman Custance

[bedfordshire boy]

this is a mistranscription on the IGI, not uncommon.

You need to differentiate between member submissions, which are very unreliable, and extracted entries, which in my experience are very reliable.

I'm not in the least convinced that the transcriber has muddled marriages in Dunstable and Lakenham, as the latter marriage is shown on the IGI as Ecclestone, not Eggleston. There were however Eggletons living in Dunstable at the right time, and something, unusually, may have gone wrong with the transcription

David

[cusancia]

David
I am not convinced either. it was just that the year. month and the name, Mary, coincided.
Norman