1861 for John Pain POWELL

[1000xlch]

Hi Jansher

Great to see a connection as have waited a long time and not been getting very far back.  I have no further info as to ancestors of John Pain Powell or even where he was born.  I only have 3 children of his listed.  I have a gedcom and word doc.  I will PM you re the info.

Thanks

John Rowley

[trish1120]

Hi all,
Just started looking at this so have found 2 things so far;

John Payne POWELS, Burial 08 April 1875, Kingswinford, Stafford,
Age 61, Birth 1814
(Source Eng Death/Burials Familysearch Pilot)

Marriage Reg;
John POWELL, March 1852, Stourbridge, 6c 147
On the same page is Sarah TAYLOR

Does the Marriage Record you found Jansher have any other details?

Trish

[trish1120]

1871 Census John is born c  St Georges, Shropshire and is a Retired Coal Pit Manager.

There is this possible;
1851 Census
Kingswinford, Staffordshire
HO107/2036/178/31
John MILLINGTON, 40, Head, Mar, Waggoner, born Crudgington, Shropshire
Mary Millington, 40, Wife, Mar, born Oakengates, Shropshire
JOHN POWELL, 36, Lodger, Unm, Master Sinker of ?, born Shiffnall, Shropshire

[trish1120]

I must say this is a frustrating Family

This may be George Powell from 1861 Census's Marriage;
George POWELL, Age 22, Birth 1831, Father GEORGE Powell
Eliza EVANS, Age 19, Birth 1834, Father THOMAS Evans
10 September 1853, Malinslee, Shropshire

[trish1120]

Perserverence
Under SOWELL

1861 Census
Brook Street
Kingswinford, Staffordshire
RG9/2070/26/46
John P POWELL, 47, Head, Mar, Proprietor of Houses, born Regis Stowe, Shropshire
Sarah, 45, Wife, Mar, born Daelason, Staffordshire (sic)
John H, 8, Son, Scholar, born Kingswinford, Staffordshire
William, 7, Son, Scholar, born Kingswinford
John, 77, Father, Mar, born Wigmore, Herefordshire
Sarah, 86, Mother, Mar, born Leominster, Herefordshire
Mary J PRITCHARD, 21, Neice, Unm, born Stroud, Gloucestershire
Rose PODMORE, 12, Neice, Scholar, born Oakengates, Shropshire
Betsey JONES, 20, Servant, Unm, General Servant, born Swindon, Staffordshire

Living next door is a now Widowed John MILLINGTON

[trish1120]

1851 Census
Holy Head S P Road,
Shiffnal, Shropshire
HO107/1987/309/7
John POWELL, 68, Head, Mar, Ag Lab, born Leominster, Herefordshire
Sarah Powell, 76, Wife, Mar, born Wigmore, Herefordshire

1841 they are in Shiffnal also and alone unfortunately.
Both down as born in County age 55/65
HO107/909/10/Shiffnall

[trish1120]

1861 Census in West Bromwich, Staffs is;
Maria POWELL, 6, Relative, born West Bromwich
Living with Noah LEACH born c 1824, Cowood, Shropshire. Wife Sarah born c 1824, Little Dawley, Shropshire.
RG9/2030/17/28
Marriage FreeBMD;
Noah LEECH, March 1848, Madeley, 18 129
On the same page is Sarah POWELL

I may be clutching at straws here

[Jansher]

Hi John

Good to hear from you. I am attaching the relevant part of my family tree for you as a pdf - I am still trying to find John and William's parents and the Mornington connection.

I have it all documented in Family Tree Maker and my son has it on Genes Reunited.

How are you related to John Pain Powell? I have just written him down as John on my tree but in some of his childrens' baptism records he is recorded as John Pain Powell.

Jan Sherlock
Yes that's my real name! Can supply my own e mail address if  you wish - having a bit of trouble with attachment.

[1000xlch]

Hi Jan

My relation to John Pain Powell is 2x great grandfather on my dads side (my dads fathers mothers father).  Not found much else yet as been difficult enough with Kingswinford and Pensnett as it was Worcestershire surrounded by Staffordshire but again changed over the years!

Got your email.

Cheers

John Rowley