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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 17 December 05 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Seasons Greetings to everyone on this thread.

What a great start to the Festive Season with a couple of brilliant messages from bijou and twinkleberry. They almost made Loughmore come to life I look forward to reading many more messages like this in 2006.

Keep sending those friendly helpful messages, Chris  8)

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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 December 05 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Seasons Greetings to you too, Christopher.

Will probably be too busy to do much rootschatting the next two weeks, what with all the festivities etc, but hope you have a most convivial time wherever you may spend Christmas.

Cheers
Mags
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Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto

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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 December 05 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the Good Wishes for Christmas Mags. Remember to keep a seat at the table for the absent guest. I regret to say I am one of the many people who spend a lonely Christmas on their own. I have grown to hate this really stupid time of year. It must now be the lengthiest Birthday Party in existence running from August to early January. It is so commercialised and no longer the simple event it once was just over 2000 year ago when Our Lord Jesus was born in a stable in Bethlehem.   Here is a tune, which I have not heard before, for that lovely hymn "Away in a Manger"  http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/a/w/awaymang.htm
LATE NEWS An American Friend, resident in London, modelling at the moment in Nigeria is flying over from there to spend Christmas with me.

All the best Chris

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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 January 06 14:48 GMT (UK) »
For those interested in Loughmore, this may be useful:

http://www.freesurnamesearch.com/search/ireland/tip.html

Scroll down till you get to Loughmoe East and West.

Cheers,
Mags
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King - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny parish
Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto


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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 February 06 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Dear all,

My direct line ancestors came from Loughmore.  They are Andrew Fogarty and Margaret Woodlock, who emigrated with family to Australia in the 1850's.  My brick wall is Andrew's parents and siblings.  All I have is their emigration record that says John and Mary, dead.  By looking at the sponsors at their children's baptisms, that are shown below, he may have had at least one sister.

Michael Woodlock
William Woodlock
Mary Woodlock
Patrick Woodlock
Judith Woodlock
Judy Cahill
Julianne or July Ann ( no last name given)
Martin Dwyer
Winnifred Dwyer (appears to be wife of Martin)
Catherine Fogarty
Patrick Maher
Ellen Carroll
Alicia Ryan

There was a James Fogarty, same parents on emigration list for Tipperary to australia, that is a possibility.

Any help would be appreciated

Carol D
Melbourne Australia

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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #14 on: Monday 22 October 07 19:47 BST (UK) »
I may have a little bit about your Fogartys.  I have Martin Maher b. 11/11/1811.  One baptismal sponsor was Catherine Fogarty.  Martin later married an Anne/Nancy Fogarty in 1827.

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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 November 07 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Loughmoe East, na-Cealla-beaga, not given.
Loughmoe, luachma, not given.
Loughmoe, luaghmhagh, luach-mhagh, prize plain or plain of reward.
Loughmore,(Tipperary) lough-moe, luachmhagh, the plain of the reward or the prize field.
Loughmore,(Tipperary) luachma, not given.


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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 December 08 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Yes. Loughmore and Loughmoe are one and the same place. Loughmoe is the older version of the placename, coming from the Irish (Gaelic) Luach Magh. Magh means a plain. Lough does not, in this instance, refer to a lake. There is no lake in Loughmore, just the river Suir......

I came upon this site a bit too late to join in this discussion, however I agree with bijou.
I have relatives in the village and have spent many happy times there.
I was last there in June '07 and will be back there in '09.
There has always been confusion about the old and new spelling, except among the local people.
I find it amusing as it often allows the locals to remain undisturbed.
It has always been a hard-working agricultural village, not a tourist place at all.
The Purcell or Loughmoe Castle, (I have seen both names used) where I played with my cousins as a child, is on private land. There is one Church (R.C.) one school, one pub, one small shop. Nowhere to stay, unless you want to improve your fiddle playing at Fiddler's Retreat.
I have a DVD made from a video all about life in Loughmore and Castleiney. It was filmed by a local about 15 years ago, and has a young lady telling the story of the Loughmore/ Luach Mhagh name. She then sings a sean-nos song about the Cormack Brothers, 2 local brothers wrongfully executed in 1858, who are now buried in Loughmore Churchyard.

If there is still any doubt about the name, please read this:
http://www.tipperarylibraries.ie/local_studies/loughmore.shtml



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Re: confused about Loughmore
« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 December 08 21:01 GMT (UK) »
The plain of the prize or reward is the correct translation of  Luachma. As years rolled by and the English could not pronounce Luachma the nearest they could get was Loughmore and it stuck.
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 Tom.