Hyde family of Theydon Garnon, Essex

[sugarfizzle]

Can anyone help me (again!) with Hyde family of Theydon Garnon?
I have been informed by suepip in August that Boyd's marriage index gives the following record.
1806 / HIDE EDW / MILLER CATH / THEYDON GARNON
I have found out since then from Theydon Garnon Church burial records  that
 Edward Hyde buried 7 May 1826, aged 62
Catherine Hyde, died 31 Jan 1831, buried 7 Feb 1831, aged 71
Wife of Edward Hyde

This would make them 42 and 46 respectively in 1806, perhaps a bit old for a first marriage and children. They were ?? my GGGG grandparents
My GGG grandfather, George, was born c. 1806 in Theydon Garnon, possibly son of Edward and Catherine.   Is this likely to be a second marriage for Edward?  Any information gratefully received, Margaret

[Sue W]

Had a look at the parish register fiche. The writing was very very feint, especially the bits I wanted to see! Isn't it always the case.

Edward Hyde bachelor of this parish and Catherine Miller widow also of this parish were married in church by licence 3 June? 1806. Edward made his mark and Catherine signed her name. Witnesses were Thomas Miller, Diana Gilderson, Mary Miller.

The baptism register showed a baptism for George son of Wm and Mary Hyde on 2 June 1806.  About this time there were William and Mary Hyde  and Thomas and Susannah Hyde having children baptised.  Had a look a couple of years either side of 1806 but couldn't find any other George Hydes being baptised. 

[sugarfizzle]

Sue, my sincere apologies.  I did not see this reply to my message, someone else has just brought it to my attention!

So it looks like my theory re Edward and Catherine was wrong, I was never fully convinced about them as parents of George Hyde, more coincidence that they got married at about the right time.  Were there any more Hyde children of William and Mary Hyde?
Where did you get the parish register fiche from, do you know if they have been transcribed anywhere?  I have a copy of some Burials from Theydon Garnon, no 'suitable' record for Thomas, Susannah or William Hyde, possibility for Mary Hyde, buried 23 Nov 1851, aged 87, who is probably the following lady.

 1851 census
Alms Houses, Abridge Road, Theydon Garnon
Ann Walter, wid, 80, b. Roydon
Mary Hide, wid, 86, b. North Weald
(Hannah x'd out) Sarah How, wid, 87, b. North Weald
Above three ladies apparently "Supported by the Parish"
HO107 1770 201 p43 & 44

Once again, I would have replied to your message before, but did not get the usual notification of a reply.
Margaret

[Sue W]

Marriage at North Weald Bassett
William Hyde of Theydon Garnon to Mary Gladwin  by Licence 5 November 1785.

Baptisms at North Weald Bassett
Mary dau of George and Ann Gladwin 27 May 1764
Thomas son of Wm and Mary Hyde 16 April 1786

Baptisms at Theydon Garnon
Wm son of Wm and Mary Hide 7 March 1788
John son of above 31 January 1790
Sarah dau of Wm and Mary Hyde 15 April 1792
Ann dau of above 2 March 1794
William son of above 14 October 1798
Elizabeth dau of above 18 June 1799
Mary Anne dau of above 6 June 1802
Richard? son of above 5 December 1804
Maria dau of above 16 October 1808

Burials
William Hide 30 December 1789
William Hyde 22 Feb? 1799 infant
Mary Hyde 3 April 1803 aged 11 months
Sarah Hyde 1 September 1813 aged 21

I use the fiche at the Essex Record Office to get the information.

[sugarfizzle]

Sue, Thank you so much for that.
To not only find his parents, but his siblings as well!!
I had thought that John Hyde born c 1789 from Census records might be a brother of George's as well, as in 1861 census his wife  Katherine Hide shown living with Margaret Gregory (George's daughter), as a nurse, but married.  John Hide shown living by himself but married.  In 1871 John and Katherine living together.
Assumption was that Katherine might have been  Margaret's aunt, helping her out with new born baby, and this would appear to be the case.
Thank you once again for giving me this information,
Margaret