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Offline Tony Payne

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Re: Remembrance Day - November 11
« Reply #117 on: Thursday 09 November 06 02:38 GMT (UK) »
When I read through the lists of merchant ships sunk in WWI I was surprised that often there were no or almost no casualties.  Probably because at least for the early part of the war the U-Boats surfaced and forced the ships to pull the plug rather than using torpedos.  That way the crew were given time to abandon ship before she went down.

My grandfather served on armed minesweepers in WWI, acting as Q-Boats to try and lure U-Boats into a trap.

By contrast when you read of 2,000 men and more losing their lives on a single ship it's horrific.

I wonder if those great ships had not been lost would Singapore still have been lost.  My guess is probably, especially since the big guns on the shore were fixed for an assault from the sea and not from the mainland.  No doubt we would have cost the Japanese more dearly, and probably sunk more shipping of theirs too, but I think at that point in the war the loss was inevitable.

I read a good account of the loss of Singapore in No Time For Geishas by Geoffrey Pharoah Adams.  He was in the army in Singapore at the time of the loss, was a prisoner of the Japanese, worked on the railway to Burma and the Bridge On The Kwai, escaping and finally making it back to England.  My son has a signed copy of the book in London.  Geoffrey and his wife were good friends of my Grandmother down in Poole.  Sadly Geoffrey passed away I think about 15 years ago.  Incidentally, I was out in Thailand in 1988 and visited the cemetary and museum by the "real" bridge on the Kwai (still standing) - not the bridge in the movie - a lot of the story was fake.  There was a section in the museum dedicated to Geoffrey and it had photos of when he went back for a reunion.  What a surprise to go from England to Thailand and see photos of someone I knew growing up...
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Re: Remembrance Day - November 11
« Reply #118 on: Thursday 09 November 06 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Remembrance Day is a day like no other day, it is a day to remember and a day to cry, and a day of silence and a day for songs.  A day for sad songs and songs of hope.

Not sure if the Cindy Walker song DISTANT DRUMS is played on Remembrance Day, but maybe for the lads that never came home
the Distance Drums could play.
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
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Re: Remembrance Day - November 11
« Reply #119 on: Thursday 09 November 06 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Is that the same as the Jim Reaves song Distant Drums?
Not heard of the other one...
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Re: Remembrance Day - November 11
« Reply #120 on: Thursday 09 November 06 14:30 GMT (UK) »
In memory of my great uncle  Private 1324 Hubert Meehan of the Royal Army Medical Corps who was killed in action on 09/10/1917 near to Passchendaele.

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Distant Druns
« Reply #121 on: Thursday 09 November 06 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Is that the same as the Jim Reaves song Distant Drums?
Not heard of the other one...

Yes, Jim Reeves recorded the song,
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

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places, with various occupations

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Re: Remembrance Day - November 11
« Reply #122 on: Thursday 09 November 06 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - haven't heard it in years - come to think of it I haven't heard anything from Jim in years on the radio or otherwise.  I know he has been dead for donkey's years...
I am researching the following families:
Hurst / Payne - Leicestershire / Warwickshire / Worcestershire
Toon(e) - Leicestershire
Batchelor / Foster - Warwickshire / Northamptonshire
Hardy - Dorset

My web site has the family tree showing.  I am researching primarily the Payne, Hurst, Foster and Batchelor lines in the Midlands.

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The lost bagpipes of piper Richardson - 1916
« Reply #123 on: Friday 10 November 06 00:14 GMT (UK) »
There are many bright and pleasant stories and the one featured in the headlines of the Victoria TIMES COLINIST (November 9th concerning  the return of the lost bagpipes of JAMES CLELLAND RICHARDSON, V C is such a story.

Jimmy was from Chilliwack, BC and was part of the Canadian
Scottish Battalion that saw action at Courcelette, France in
October 1916.

I would welcome any comments on the heroic deeds of piper
Richardson from other Canadian folks from British Columbia
with any connections to any of the Regiments connected to the
Canadian Scottish Battalion in WW I, or even WW II
Regiments such as the Seaforth Highlanders of British Columbia that saw action in Sicily and Italy and Holland.





Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

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places, with various occupations

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Military Nurses - Nursing Sisters
« Reply #124 on: Friday 10 November 06 02:24 GMT (UK) »
In our individual or group plans for Remembrance Day it is hoped some though will be given to the military nurses & civilian nurses
that lost their lives during the wars while engaged in caring for the sick, wounded and dying civilians and military members.

Of interest, at the Brookfield Military Cemetery in Surrey, England
there is a section for members of the nursing service   One such name is a Nursing Sister of Canada, Marion Elizabeth BELL
of the Royal Canadian Army Medical Corp.

Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations

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Re: Remembrance Day - November 11
« Reply #125 on: Friday 10 November 06 17:16 GMT (UK) »
In memory of:
Company Sergeant Major Chas Sharpe
7th Bn Suffolk regiment.
Died age 47 years on Wednesday, 20th October 1915 of wounds received in action at the battle of Loos.

He had been a soldier for many years (served in the Boer war and was mentioned in dispatches) and had retired. At the outbreak of war the army asked him to re-enlist to train new recruits. They assured him he would not be required to fight.