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1851 census coventry
« on: Saturday 08 October 05 08:33 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
i am looking for details of a family I believe living in 125 Spon lane Coventry in 1851
Edward Pickering app 50
Margaret
Edward 12
Ann 10

i have a reference that may apply
pro ho/107/2067/folio:406 page 32

many thanks
Ruth
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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 October 05 17:16 BST (UK) »
Here they are.

1851 England Census
Aeten Pickering abt 1802  Much Wenlock, Shropshire, England Head  Coventry St Michael  Warwickshire   
Ann Pickering abt 1842  West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Daughter  Coventry St Michael  Warwickshire   
Edward Pickering abt 1839  Birmingham Son  Coventry St Michael  Warwickshire   
Margaret Pickering abt 1803  Church Stretton, Shropshire, England Wife  Coventry St Michael  Warwickshire 

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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 October 05 17:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Rita,
Thank you very much. It is a bit odd that they are not showing on the original. His name was Edward Acton Pickering so obviously dropped the Edward! Were there any other family members there at all?
Many thanks
Ruth
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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 October 05 18:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruth
I couldn't find them on the census return, the page numbers have been mistranscibed.
As far as I know they are the only ones in the household.

Rita.


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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 October 05 19:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Ruth,

As Rita says they are not showing on the census return on the page they should according to the reference ::)

Have had a look through several pages either side, and looking at the folio numbers at the top of the pages nothing ties up, the reference comes up on the image no. not the page no., something obviously wrong somewhere ???

Looking at the original index there is one more family member :

HO107/2067  folio 406  page 33
Spon St. 125 Coventry

Acton Pickering  Head  49  Master Cooper  Much Wenlock Shropshire
Margaret Pickering  wife  48  Cotton Winder  Church Stretton, Shropshire
Edward Pickering  son  12  Errand Boy   Birmingham
Ann Pickering  dau  9  Cotton Winder   West Bromwich
Mary Potts  Mother  Wid  74  -----    Farndon MNM

Susan  :)
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 October 05 19:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Susan,
Many thanks for the extra info. Ann Pickering is my gg grandmother. Her brother Edward, (the errand boy!),was one of the first mayors of Durban, South Africa and was very well known.
The family emigrated to South Africa in 1861.
Once again thank you,
Ruth
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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 August 10 08:16 BST (UK) »
To: rutti tutti (and others interested in Edward Pickering, 1839-1906, of Durban, South Africa)
From:  PickeringGrandChil of California, USA

Perchance, are you familiar with Edward Pickering's descendants?  I would love to hear what you can tell me of my South African relations, especially Joseph Thomas Pickering (Edward's son), my great grandfather. 

His first wife was Blanche Gertrude Shepherd of Portsea, Southampton.  While pregnant with my grandmother (Blanche Gladys Pickering, 1898-1981), she was sickly so she returned to England.  My grandmother was born aboard ship before it docked in Southampton.  Grandmother, Great Grandmother, and Great Grand Aunt returned to South Africa, but when Blanche Gertrude Shepherd became even more ill they returned to England where Blanche Gertrude Shepherd died (in 1905, I think).  Her sister, my great grand aunt, would not return my grandmother to the wilds of South Africa, so she took my grandmother and immigrated to Canada.

I do have copies of Edward Pickering's will and other documents, including two letters from Joseph Pickering found in my grandmother's papers after she died.  I have not resolved the ancestry of Edward Pickering's mother "Margaret Raybould," nor do I understand why the 1851 census seems to name her mother "Mary Potts."

I will try to check back to see if there is any elucidation you (or others) may be able to provide.  If you want, I can provide more details of this Pickering diaspora to America.

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Re: 1851 census coventry
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 August 10 14:00 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
Welcome to Rootschat
This is fascinating! I am in contact with another Pickering here in South Africa. I am happy to share any info and would love to see a copy of his will.
many thanks
Ruth
PS
Joseph did marry again in 1910
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 16 November 13 06:17 GMT (UK) »
My copy of the will of Edward Pickering (1839-1906) is hard to read so I transcribed it today.  Two points that I noted:

1)  He leaves property bequests to all his children except Edward Henry Pickering, but does include him in the equal apportionment of the residual of his estate amongst some of his children.

2)  He leaves a property bequest to Joseph Thomas Pickering, but leaves him out of the equal apportionment of the residual of his estate amongst some of his children.

What follows is the first page (character limit of 5500):

This is the LAST WILL and TESTAMENT of me EDWARD PICKERING of Durban in the Colony of Natal, Importer and General Storekeeper.  I hereby revoke cancel and make void all previous Wills, Codicils or other Testamentary Acts heretofore made or executed by me. 

I hereby nominate constitute and appoint my son BENJAMIN ALFRED PICKERING and my Son-in-Law WILLIAM MOYSE HENDERSON Assistant Town Clerk, Durban or the survivor to be the Executors or Executor of this my Will and Administrators or Administrator of my Estate and effects hereby giving and granting to them and each of them all such power and authority as are required or allowed in Law especially those of assumption and substitution.

I hereby make the following bequests that is to say:-

To my dear wife HARRIET PICKERING (born CAMP) I give the whole of my Household Furniture and private personal effects, together with the use and occupation of any dwelling house belonging to me she may choose for the term of her natural life or for so long as she may desire to retain same as a residence.  I also direct my Executors to set aside and pay to her the sum of Twenty pounds per month for her comfort and maintenance or if found necessary at their discretion to pay the said sum to my daughter Edith Mercy Henderson to be disbursed by her for and on account of her mother. 

I give to my sons BENJAMIN ALFRED PICKERING and JOHN ETHELBERT PICKERING all my share and interest in the businesses in West Street Durban, now carried on with them in co-partnership under the style of “E. PICKERING and SONS” including any sum of money which the businesses may be owing to me at the time of my decease and together all stock-in-trade Book-debts and other assets belonging thereto including the lease of the premises situate on part of Lot 5 Block G West Street, Durban, subject to the payment oby them of all liabilities belonging to or appertaining to the business including certain Mortgage Bonds passed by me for the Co-partnership business hereinafter mentioned.  This bequest being conditional that my said two sons shall continue to carry on the businesses as heretofore under the same style of “E. PICKERING and SONS” until the termination of the said Lease in 1911 and for so long thereafter as they may mutually agree upon.  And in the event of the decease of either of my said sons interested in the said business the deceased partner's share shall become the property of his Widow and children so long as she shall remain unmarried and be living but without the power of withdrawing the Capital share from the business during the term of any partnership existing at the time of her husband's decease, and at her death or remarriage the share of such deceased partner shall devolve to and upon the children then living,  if any in equal shares.

To my third son JOSEPH THOMAS PICKERING I give the farm “Moguntia” in Alfred County with all my lands adjacent thereto together with all buildings crops and livestock thereon or belonging thereto with the store and Stock in trade belonging thereto, all payments remaining to be paid to the Colonial Government for the purchase price of the said farm or adjacent lands to be paid by my said son JOSEPH THOMAS but any payments that may be owing for the cost of fencing the farm rendered necessary by (Rinderpe?) in 1897-8 shall be paid out of my private estate. I further give to my said son JOSEPH THOMAS the sum of One Hundred Pounds Sterling to be paid in one or more instalments at the discretion of my Executors as soon as conveniently may be after my decease.

To my said son BENJAMIN ALFRED I give my property on Manning Road Berea, being the Subdivision E of Lot 9 Block F Town Lands of Durban, with the buildings thereon at the time of my decease the same to be transferred to him free and discharged from any Mortgage that may be found to be thereon at the time of my decease.