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[Brisgirl]

Hi Shadrach,

I've just done a search of the Tasmanian index, initially for James Brindley and Rebecca Gulley.  Here are the results ....

Name: Samuel James Brindley
Father: James
Mother: Mary
Date of Birth: 16 October 1829
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 3049 / 1829

Name: Esther Rebecca Gulley
Father: William
Mother: Elizabeth
Date of Birth: 24 April 1832
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 4249 / 1832

Note that they both used their middle names!  There were also christening entries for the same day for both of them.

Cheers, Rachel   [Brisgirl]

[Brisgirl]

Hi again Shadrach,

Well, no matches for Dennis, I'm afraid.  However, there was a John born in 1847 who may be related ...

Name: John Dwyer
Father: John
Mother: Margaret Conway
Birthdate: 5 February 1847
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 962 / 1847

For your records, here's a full list of all the Dwyers on the index.  I've split the list into two messages so it doesn't exceed the message limits.  If you'd like me to check the details of any of these, just ask ....

DWYER, Ada   B   1869   TAS   Fa:   Edward DWYER
DWYER, Albert Woodsden   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Alexander John   B   1883   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Amelia Anne   B   1862   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Ann   B   1879   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Anne   B   1872   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Arthur Ernest   B   1871   TAS   Fa:   William Singltn DWYER
DWYER, Bridget   B   1860   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Catharine   B   1866   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Catherine   B   1857   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Charles   B   1860   TAS   Fa:   Jeremiah DWYER
DWYER, Charles Aaron   B   1891   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Charles John   B   1899   TAS   Fa:   James DWYER
DWYER, Charles Owen   B   1880   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Christina Beniga   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Clara Jane   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Denis Paul   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Edith   B   1892   TAS   Fa:   George DWYER
DWYER, Edward   B   1853   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Edward Sydney   B   1855   TAS   Fa:   Edward Sydney DWYER
DWYER, Eliza   B   1876   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Eliza Maria Fanny   B   1863   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Eliza Maria Fanny   C   1863   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Elizabeth   B   1859   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Elizabeth Muriel   B   1894   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Ella Maggie   B   1887   TAS   Fa:   George Lovell DWYER
DWYER, Ellen   B   1857   TAS   Fa:   Michael DWYER
DWYER, Ellen   B   1863   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Ellen   B   1888   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Ellen Elizabeth   B   1870   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Ethel Florence   B   1877   TAS   Fa:   Edward DWYER
DWYER, Eva   B   1881   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1858   TAS   Fa:   Robert DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1862   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1863   TAS   Fa:   Edward DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1865   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1866   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1870   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1873   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, F   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Florence Mary Margt   B   1897   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Frederick   B   1850   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Geneive   B   1886   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, George   B   1864   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, George   B   1884   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, George Martin   B   1884   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, George Sorell   B   1858   TAS   Fa:   Edward DWYER
DWYER, George Sorell   C   1858   TAS   Fa:   Edward DWYER
DWYER, Hannah   B   1872   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Hanorah   B   1870   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Helen   B   1888   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Hellen   B   1862   TAS   Fa:   Jerremiah DWYER
DWYER, Henry   B   1853   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Henry   B   1882   TAS   Fa:   Edward Lovell DWYER
DWYER, Henry James   B   1897   TAS   Fa:   James DWYER
DWYER, Herbert Leslie   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   Thomas Robert DWYER
DWYER, Hillman Stanley   B   1899   TAS   Fa:   James Edward DWYER
DWYER, Honora   B   1856   TAS   Fa:   Jeremiah DWYER
DWYER, Honora   B   1857   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, James   B   1870   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Jeremiah   B   1885   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Jessie Maud   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   Michael DWYER
DWYER, Johanna   B   1851   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Johanna Maria   B   1871   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1847   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1847   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1852   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1855   TAS   Fa:   Michael DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1866   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1882   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1885   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, John   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   Philip DWYER
DWYER, John Claude   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   John Edward DWYER
DWYER, John Francis   B   1873   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, John James   B   1890   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, John Mervyn   B   1898   TAS   Fa:   Timothy DWYER
DWYER, John Thomas   B   1896   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Julia   B   1865   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER


Cheers, Rachel  [Brisgirl]

[Brisgirl]

And here's the rest of the list ....

DWYER, Lionel Edgar   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   Edward DWYER
DWYER, Lucy Ellenor   B   1878   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1844   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1858   TAS   Fa:   Jeremiah DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1859   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1862   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1864   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1867   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1869   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1871   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, M   B   1873   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Margaret   B   1845   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Margaret   B   1857   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Margaret   B   1870   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Margaret   B   1888   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Margaret   B   1897   TAS   Fa:   Timothy DWYER
DWYER, Maria   B   1872   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Martha Bridget   B   1877   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Mary   B   1869   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Mary Ann   B   1884   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Mary Ann Catherine   B   1876   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Mary Ann Ellen   B   1861   TAS   Fa:   Michael DWYER
DWYER, Mary Ellen   B   1894   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Mary Jane   B   1864   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, May   B   1886   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Michael Stephen   B   1881   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Olive   B   1893   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Pansey May   B   1886   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Patrick   B   1857   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Patrick   B   1880   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Pius John Edward Wm   B   1897   TAS   Fa:   John Edward DWYER
DWYER, Rose Periseela   B   1896   TAS   Fa:   John Edward DWYER
DWYER, Rosetta Phillippa   B   1860   TAS   Fa:   Edward Lovell DWYER
DWYER, Samuel   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Samuel Singleton   B   1862   TAS   Fa:   William Singlet DWYER
DWYER, Samuel Singleton   C   1862   TAS   Fa:   William Singlet DWYER
DWYER, Sidney Herbert   B   1871   TAS   Fa:   Edward Lovell DWYER
DWYER, Stephen   B   1862   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Susan Emilda   B   1897   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Sydney   B   1896   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Thomas   B   1874   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, Thomas   B   1899   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER
DWYER, Thomas Robert   B   1870   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, Thomas Vincent   B   1896   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, Thomas William   B   1865   TAS   Fa:   William Singltn DWYER
DWYER, Vera Gladys   B   1889   TAS   Fa:   George Lovell DWYER
DWYER, Vera Grace   B   1895   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, Walter   B   1878   TAS   Fa:   Walter DWYER
DWYER, William   B   1851   TAS   Fa:   U DWYER
DWYER, William   B   1868   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, William Fredck Arth   B   1882   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, William John   B   1869   TAS   Fa:   William DWYER
DWYER, William John   B   1895   TAS   Fa:   Charles DWYER
DWYER, William Patrick   B   1884   TAS   Fa:   Patrick DWYER
DWYER, William Thomas   B   1868   TAS   Fa:   John DWYER

I'll have a look at some convict records as well, to check for Dwyer.

Cheers, Rachel   

[Brisgirl]

Hi Shadrach,

I found the marriage entry for James Brindley and Rebecca Gulley, in case you didn't have that already ...

Names: James Brindley / Rebekah Gully
Marriage Date: 29 July 1867
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 227 / 1867

It looks as though James was christened Samuel James but was known as James Samuel.  Here are some more records for the Brindleys ...

Name: Easter [Esther??] Rebecca Brindley
Death Date: 10 November 1899
Age at Death: 68
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 1245 / 1899

Name: James Samuel Brindley
Death Date: 23 December 1897
Age at Death: 69
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 69 / 1897

James Samuel's [or Samuel James'] siblings ...

Isaac Brinley [note the typo]
Parents: James / Mary
Birthdate: 13 November 1827
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 2355 / 1827

Charlotte Brindley
Parents: James / Mary
Birthdate: 22 September 1833
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 1992 / 1833

James Samuel & [Esther] Rebecca's children ...

Charlotte Mary Ann Brindley
Parents: James / Rebecca Gully
Birthdate: 15 March 1861
Place: Tasmania
Reference: 4134 / 1861

F. Brindley  [female]
Parents: James / Esther Rebecca Gay [ie Gulley]
Birthdate: 6 July 1865
Place: Tasmania
Reference: 7883 / 1865

Alice May Brindley
Parents: James / Rebecca Gulley
Birthdate: 24 November 1871
Place: Tasmania
Reference: 2257 / 1871

There was another James Samuel Brindley listed, quite possibly their son, who married a Mary Theresa O'Connor on 11 June 1889 (reference: 281 / 1889) and died on 17 September 1895, aged 33 (reference: 312 / 1895).  There is no entry for his birth.

I also found the marriage entry for [Esther] Rebecca's parents, William Gulley and Elizabeth Maguiness [probably in reality MacGuiness]...

Names: William Gulley / Elizabeth Maguiness
Marriage Date: 22 September 1823
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 648 / 1823

[Esther] Rebecca seems to have three siblings ...

Ann Lovice Gulley
Parents: William / Elizabeth
Birthdate: 27 September 1824
Place: Tasmania
Reference: 1668 / 1824

Thomas Gulley
Parents: William / Elizabeth
Birthdate: 31 May 1826
Place: Tasmania
Reference: 2946 / 1829 [not registered until 1829]

Charlotte Maginnis Gulley
Parents: William / Elizabeth
Birthdate: 5 February 1829
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 2947 / 1829


I also checked a few convict websites for the surname Dwyer.  To see the Dwyers listed at "Claim-A-Convict", go to this webpage:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/convicts/page29.html

There are a few Dwyers listed on this Rootsweb page:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~austas/convictsD.htm

Some Dwyers pop up on the Tasmanian government's site, "Convict Applications for Permission to Marry":

http://resources.archives.tas.gov.au/archmarriage/default.asp

Here are some convict links that you may like to look at:

http://www.genealogylinks.net/australia/tasmania/tas-con.htm

I hope some of this is useful to you.  If I can look up anything else, just ask.

Cheers, Rachel 

[Brisgirl]

Hi Shadrach,

I've just found two other entries that may relate to your Gulley family:

Rebecca Gulley
Marriage date: 9 April 1850
Age: adult
Married to: George Sly
Place: Tasmania
Reference: 205 / 1850

- perhaps Rebecca married twice??

Charlotte Gulley
Date of Death: 11 July 1835
Age: 8  [should be six if William & Elizabeth's daughter]
Place: Tasmania
Reference No: 3938 / 1835

Cheers, Rachel

[Shadrach]

Dear Rachel, -  Do you ever sleep???
As yet I have only scanned your answers but
I can see they are going to keep me fascinated and
busy for days!  There are so many new leads to follow
and I am sure to take you up on your offer to look
for other things.  Do you by any chance have
access to immigrant arrivals for Tassie?

Dennis Dwyer's story is complicted by the fact
that he married in country NSW, no parents names are
given on the certificate.  His wife Ellen died in Sydney
in 1900 and Dennis was still alive in that year. 
The NSW Death index lists several Denis Dwyers and two
Dennis Dwyers between 1900 to 1945 but two wrong transcripts
later I still don't have a clue to his parents names which
would be a great help.

This is all wonderful material, many thanks Rachel

Helen

[Brisgirl]

Hi Helen,

You're very welcome!  And while Rootschat states my messages were logged in at around midnight, never fear, I didn't stay up all night doing genealogy!  I sat down to my computer this morning on a lovely sunny day here in Brisbane, Australia! 

Tasmanian passenger lists are not that easy to come by, they're mostly still on microfiche.  There may be some useful links for you to check out here:

http://www.genealogylinks.net/australia/tasmania/tas-ships.htm

Re Rebecca Gulley's mother, Elizabeth Maguiness.  Having had a look on the Internet in Australia, I think the surname is most likely to have been "McGinnis".  Both the McGinnis and Gulley families were listed as being on the Australian "First Families project" website, but unfortunately the site has been closed for privacy reasons.

I just had a browse through the NSW government's "Certificates of Freedom, 1823-1869 [http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/asp/searchform.asp?id=19] and found the following two entries:

Surname: DWYER
First Name: Denis 
Vessel: Surry
Year: 1816
CF No: [ie. certificate of freedom] 30/0051
Date: 29 Jan 1830
S R Ref: 4/4300
Film: 985
Remarks: TL [ticket of leave] 631/851; renewed CF [certificate of freedom] 41/947

Surname: DWYER
First Name: Denis 
Vessel: Surry
Year: 1816
CF No: 41/0947
Date: 10 Jul 1841
SR Ref: 4/4367
Film: 1009
Remarks: TL 31/851 [really 631/851]; in lieu of CF 30/51

Both entries are for the same person.  I wonder if he's a relation?

The McGinniss and Dwyer surnames feature in the NSW Colonial Secretary Index, 1788-1825:

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/d/F17c_dr-dy-14.htm#P6271_204417

http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/m/F35c_maa-macg-18.htm#P7999_269433

Regards, Rachel

[Shadrach]

I've slowly been working my way through the treasures
(it's great fun and will take me ages!).
Your discoveries are great and I'm fascinated by many
of the details, particularly the Gulley and McGinnis familes
being listed on the "First Families" project.  Do you
happen to know how a proven descendant can have access
to the information? 

We have a wonderful photo taken about 1890 of Alice May
standing on the verandah of her house with her family in
Zeehan Tasmania so it's great to be able to learn
more of her history.

It's quite likely the Denis Dwyer you found was the father of
my Denis who went on to marry the daughter of an Irish convict
in NSW.   I just need so clue to his father or mother,  it HAS to be
somewhere, hopefully on his death certificate if found. If
he can be linked back to Denis the Surrey convict we will be
cooking with gas!

Will be back in touch soon,
Helen

[Shadrach]

Couldn't wait to tell you!
Typed "first families gulley" into
Google and bingo - up came the
McGinnis & Gulley First Family!!!

It's extra exciting because the first
McGinnis, Hugh,  married Charlotte
Simpson/Hall who came on the
Lady Julianna, the infamous ship
known as the "Floating Brothel".

The author Sian Rees wrote a book of
that name and, would you believe it,
Charlotte Simpson alias Hall, has a mention
on at least 4 pages of the book!
Whacko!!  You really have open a can
of worms Rachel.

Helen