Duntocher families

[Debbie in B.C.]

Hi Julie,

I expect if we dig enough, we will find a connection to the Docherty's.  I don't have very much on mine, they are a collateral line, and I haven't dug into them too much as yet.
I have Richard Docherty, and his wife Annie McDonald.
Their son Archie Docherty married my Great Aunt Flora Stewart Oct. 30, 1925 at St. Marys.  At the time of their marriage, Archie was living at 38 New Street.
Archie died in January 1951, I think it was a work related accident, in England. 

(*** Helen*** feel free to but in here - what do you have on Archie?)

Flora eventually emigrated to New Zealand where she re-married.

[Helen]

Not much Deb,        I did find a Michael Docherty & wife Annie in the 1901 Census.  They are living in Kirkintilloch with a tribe of kids.  I'll send it to you, see what you think, but there's no way of knowing if it's them because Archie was born abt. 1907.

[JCibz]

Hi Debbie and Helen,

Thanks for your information.  I don't have any of your Docherty's as yet within my tree but If I make a connection I'll let you know.

[Jintyjo]

Hi Helen, whats the best site to go on to search back to Ireland, we have no exact dates or places where they lived, just names. James Morgan and Elizabeth Mochan  birth dates approx 1860's. QAny help will be appreciated. Jade (my daughter) has had the flu I will take the piccy tomorrow. Love Jo x

[Helen]

Hi Jo,
My Mochans came from Donegal.  I had another look through my files, I only have one Elizabeth, but she was born Scotland abt. 1862.
As for the best Irish sites ........ take it away Deb   
Helen

[Debbie in B.C.]

this site will tell you about Irish civil registration, and the dates it started etc.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/igsi_published/cens-sub/homabd01.htm

Irish research is a lot tougher than Scottish.  My best advice to you is to get everything you can on the couple in Scotland before you attempt the Irish stuff.  Most likely your people were Catholic - Mochan, I'm betting they were from Donegal.  (A lot of the Duntocher folk were from Donegal.)

Helen and I have been working for years on the Donegal families in our tree, and haven't even managed to scratch the surface on them in Ireland.

There aren't any sites like scotlandspeople for Ireland. 

Check your people on every census in Scotland, you might strike lucky and get a County of birth in Ireland - but more often than not, the records just say "Ireland"
get all the pertinent certificates, and try for Wills & testaments - they may give clues as to where they were from in Ireland. 

[Helen]

Jo, do you have any children for James & Elizabeth?  Anything at all that would help to locate them in the Census' ?
Helen

[Helen]

moving over from the Inverness site - Roseann if you are watching this topic please respond -
chasing up loose ends on Debs & my Stewarts from Duntocher ....
Ninian Stewart b. 1895 married Elizabeth McMungle, b. 1895 d/o Thomas McMungle & MaryAnn McDowall.
Arthur Scott Murray b. 1877(also ours) married Susan McMunigle,b. 1877 d/o Hugh McMunigle & Maryann Donachy.  Hugh & MaryAnn had a son Thomas b.1875.  What I am hoping to find out is whether or not Hugh & MaryAnn's Thomas is the same Thomas father of Elizabeth ??
b.t.w. The McMunigles address in the 1891 Census is Castlebank St., Partick - which is the same street Ninian Stewart was born in.

[Helen]

Jo, I don't know for sure if these are yours, but ....

1891 Census, Dwelling North Woodside Road, St George, Glasgow
MORGAN James, 29, Head, Railway Clerk, born Ireland
MORGAN  Elizabeth, 25, born Denny, Stirling
MORGAN  James Leopold, 8 months, born Denny, Stirling

1901 Census, Dwelling 36 North Woodside Road, St George, Glasgow
MORGAN  James, Head, 38, Railway Clerk, born Ireland
MORGAN  Elizabeth, 36, born Denny, Stirling
MORGAN  James L., 10, born Denny, Stirling
MORGAN  John, 5, born Glasgow, Lanark
McKENNA Mary, 24, Visitor, born Denny, Stirling. Occ: Gen Serv.