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[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi Diane

HO107/1114/ 13 / Folio 20/ Page 31 - Eastbourne Town

HUNT William, 26, Ag Lab
........  Elizabeth, 21
........  Charles, 9 months
CLIMPSON Ruth, 14

All born in Sussex

Chris in 1066

[venusian]

Hi Again,
                 Katie listed the possible siblings of William (The children of John and Fanny) as being Abraham,Henry,Charles,Harriett and Fanny and hopefully her William.
 I to had a look at the I.G.I  AND found a John Hunt christened Eastbourne 06/01/1771 ,Parents ABRAHAM HUNT and SUSANNAH WILKINS.
  The most interesting thing is the similarity between John's brothers and sisters and the names of his own children.
 Abraham,James,William,Henry,Thomas,Elizabeth and Lucy.

Diane

[mnmilt]

Diane,
That's the John Hunt that I mentioned in a previous post.  In case he is the right one, here are some more details

1-Abraham HUNT b. Abt 1739, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 12 Apr 1741, St
  Mary's Ch, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, d. Jun 1819, Eastbourne, Sussex,
  England, bur. 12 Jun 1819, St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England
 +Susanna WILKINS b. Mar 1741, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 12 Apr 1741, St
  Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, d. Feb 1829, Eastbourne, Sussex,
  England, bur. 2 Feb 1829, Workhouse, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, m. 7 Aug
  1763, St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, par. Thomas WILKINS and
  Susannah CARTER
|--2-Abraham HUNT b. Abt 1764, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 18 Mar 1764, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England (m Elizabeth Wood)
|--2-Elizabeth HUNT b. Abt 1766, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 20 Apr 1766,
|    St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England (m Thomas Bush)
|--2-Susanna HUNT b. Abt 1768, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 14 Feb 1768, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, d. Abt 1843, Eastbourne, Sussex,
|    England (m Francis Bradford)
|--2-Thomas HUNT b. Abt 1769, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 19 Mar 1769, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, d. Jul 1770, Eastbourne, Sussex,
|    England, bur. 25 Jul 1770, St Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England
|--2-John HUNT b. Abt 1771, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 31 Dec 1771,
|    Eastbourne, Sussex, England
|--2-James HUNT b. Abt 1773, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 31 Jan 1773, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England
|--2-Lucy HUNT b. Abt 1775, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 29 Oct 1775, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England
|--2-William HUNT b. Abt 1778, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 18 Oct 1778, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England
|--2-Mary HUNT b. Abt 1780, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 10 Dec 1780, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England (m Joseph Wilkins)
|--2-Henry HUNT b. Abt 1784, Eastbourne, Sussex, England, c. 19 Sep 1784, St
|    Mary's, Eastbourne, Sussex, England (m Sarah Avery)


Regards

Mark

[Katie123]

Thank you all so much for your help!  It's quite a bit to get my head around 

So, do you think that my William Hunt (b. 1816, Westham) could be the son of John and Fanny?  That's where I got in a muddle you see; I thought that the age gap would be too great, although I suppose that Fanny (b. 1773?) might still have been able to have had William aged 43ish.

I think Fanny Hunt must have died sometime between 1851 and 1861, as I can't find her in the 1861 Census.  However, I can find a John Hunt, who was born in Westborne, Sussex and is living in Croydon (aged 86) with a servant called Mary Humphrey. 

re: the 1841 census of William Hunt, where he is shown as having a wife and child (Elizabeth and Charles) - I went on to FreeBMD and found deaths for a Charles Hunt (in 1841) and an Elizabeth Hunt (1842), both in Eastbourne.  Is Eastbourne the right area (is it nearish to Westham?)?

Many, many thanks for all of your wonderful help,

Katie 

[sillgen]

Yes, Eastbourne would be the registration disrict for Westham.   You can check that on Genuki or by clicking on the Eastbourne link on the FreeBMD record - it shows the smaller villages that are included in that district.
Andrea

[Katie123]

Okay...so I think that I pretty much have it sussed now...only one thing re: William having a first wife (Elizabeth) - wouldn't it say on his marriage certificate to Sarah Kingham 'widower' or something instead of 'bachelor'?  I don't know.

Many thanks for all of your invaluable help...I wouldn't have got any further without it.

Katie 

[venusian]

Hi Katie,
                there is a marriage Eastbourne 1839 March Quarter between,

WILLIAM HUNT
ELIZABETH MILLER

Does anyone have a fuller record?

Diane

Maybe witnessess would prove family connection.

[mnmilt]

Katie,
You suggested that Fanny Hunt died between 1851 and 1861 because you couldn't find her in the 1861 census.  Where was she in 1851?  If I read this thread correctly, the census information that Chris provided was the 1841 census information, in which case this may be the death of Fanny Hunt:

Deaths Dec 1845
~~~~~~~~
 
HUNT  Fanny     Eastbourne  7 209


If John is not in the 1851 census, then this may be his death:

Deaths Dec 1846
~~~~~~~~
 
HUNT  John     Eastbourne  7 270


I would recommend getting copies of these death certificates.  Often they contain some useful information such as the name of the informant which may be a relative.  That has enabled me to confirm relationships for some of the lines that I have been following.

You had mentioned that you had obtained a copy of William's marriage certificate.  Who were listed as the witnesses?  This information often offers up some additional clues.

Regards

Mark

[Katie123]

Yes, I've just found the deaths of John and Fanny Hunt in the 1840s myself - and I'm 99.9% sure that it's THE John and Fanny Hunt. 
The witnesses to William Hunt's marriage to Sarah Kingham were an Esther McDonald and (presumably) her husband, Peter.  I tried doing a search when I first got the certificate to see if there was an Esther Kingham or an Esther Hunt who married a McDonald, but I came up with nothing 

But am I right in thinking that on a marriage certificate it would say 'widower' or something?  I don't know if this applied in all cases, but I think I've got a few certificates relating to a different part of the family that has 'widow', 'widower' or 'formerly' written in the marital status box.

As always, many thanks for all this fantastic help,

Katie