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Bizarre 1881 census entry
« on: Wednesday 28 September 05 22:12 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I've just found a very strange census entry for my great grandmother's sister Lucy, her husband,  and two children in Hordle, Hampshire.

Instead of being listed as 'Head; wife; son, daughter', they are listed as 'son, daughter, son, daughter'.

In fact, there are four pages of families, all listed as sons or daughters! The address is given as 'The Shaker's House and Tents, Hordle, Hampshire'. The occupations of all the entries for four pages are given as 'By Faith'.

The ref is  RG11/1191, Folio 75, Page 1.

Have I stumbled across some kind of bizarre cult?

Can anyone shed any light?

Regards,
Adam
Middlesex: BAKER CLAYTON
Surrey: STILWELL
Somerset: BAKER BOWDITCH
Dorset: BAKER BOWDITCH
Hertfordshire: ELLIS
Kent: LANSDELL
Essex: GREEN
Northumberland: FORTH OGILVIE
Germany: HANISCH
Denmark: INGWERSEN

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Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 September 05 22:19 BST (UK) »
The Shaker movement was founded in England, but mainly flourished in the US - a pretty comprehensive history is here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/shakers.htm

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 September 05 22:21 BST (UK) »
Just go Google - Shakers Hordle - Adam ... it's fascinating stuff :) it seems there's been a book written about them too.

Heather
Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett
Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray
Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood
Derbyshire: Starbrook
Somerset: Willmott, Elliott
Cork:Driscoll, Murphy
London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman
London Kent:Cheesman
Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup

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Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 September 05 22:24 BST (UK) »
This link is good, for anyone interested

http://www.bbc.co.uk/southampton/faith/philip_hoare.shtml
Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett
Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray
Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood
Derbyshire: Starbrook
Somerset: Willmott, Elliott
Cork:Driscoll, Murphy
London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman
London Kent:Cheesman
Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup

Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 September 05 22:38 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Thanks for the replies. I've followed the links - you're right, it's fascinating stuff. I'll certainly follow this one up and find out more.

Regards,
Adam
Middlesex: BAKER CLAYTON
Surrey: STILWELL
Somerset: BAKER BOWDITCH
Dorset: BAKER BOWDITCH
Hertfordshire: ELLIS
Kent: LANSDELL
Essex: GREEN
Northumberland: FORTH OGILVIE
Germany: HANISCH
Denmark: INGWERSEN

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Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 March 08 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm new to RootsChat, but have been researching my family tree for a while.
  I too found some ancestors in the Hordle Shaker camp; Thomas Todd aged 60 and two of his daughters.  I found his wife Agnes had died in 1877 in Lymington, so I guess she must be one of the ones burried in unmarked graves, now built over by a church hall, which I found rather sad.  He returned to Suffolk and was still an Ag Lab at the age of 82!
 I would like to find out more about this "colourful" episode. I believe it was in the newspapers at the time, does anyone know the dates to look for or have any more information.?
 

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Re: Bizarre 1881 census entry
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 May 08 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi
 I have found an interesting web page about Judge Peterson who built a folly in the New Forest after a seance held by Mrs Girling the leader of The Shakers religious group. The judge believed that Sir Christopher Wren gave him the blue prints for the design of the folly during the seance!!

On the web site is information and some photos of the folly which was built at Sway.

http://www.follytowers.com/swaytxt.html

Sue
London/ Bethnal Green, Clerkenwell, Hackney: Jee
East London, Hackney, Shoreditch: Maslen, Jaggers, Cannell
Hackney, Hoxton, Over, Cambridgeshire: Norman
Winslow Buckinghamshire: Sturman
Essex: Mott
Bethnal Green,London: Weller, Burdon