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NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« on: Monday 26 September 05 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hello

I'm trying to find out more on George Norris baptised, according to the Lenham Bishops' Transcripts Parish Records, on April 10, 1811 as the s/o Thomas & Mary Norris.

George was the father of an illegitimate daughter (and perhaps a son) by the widowed Hannah GOLDING, nee PHILPOTT.  Their daughter Georgiana born 1840, was my great great grandmother. I found her father's name on her marriage record to Charles FULLER of Lenham

The only George Norris who 'fits' is this George born in 1811. I've hunted for him in the census records on microfilm at the LDS church in Salt Lake City but have not had much luck.

--1841 census Lenham, can't find him
--1851 census Lenham, can't find him
--1861 census Lenham, age 50, livng with his mother Mary, he is unmarried. He's at 14 Chapman Lane, also in the home are his brothers John & Jesse. His mother Mary (whose surname I don't know is listed as a widow, 64, born Pluckley
--1871 census all of England, can't find him, I assume he was deceased

I'd like to know where he was in 1841 and 1851, and I'd like to find his death record, as well as his mother's maiden name. I know that his father Thomas was Baptised  May 10, 1789 as s/o Edward & Catharine Norris. Catherine's surname was EARL.

I haven't been able to go back beyond Edward NORRIS to his parents (he was born circa 1746, don't know where, and died 02 May 1829 in Lenham) or Catherine EARL (she was born circa 1752, don't know where, and died 24 Dec 1828 in Lenham)

Any advice welcome and of course, I'd love to connect with someone else searching these lines!

Also, since I've mentioned Hannah Philpot, last year I was lucky enough to find her baptism in Pluckley 05 Apr 1805. parents John Philpott and Susanna unknown. No luck going back in the church records for Pluckley on finding a marriage for John and Susanna, or any births/baptisms so I think they must have come from elsewhere.

If anyone is looking for these lines too, it would really be my lucky day :-)



Simpson, Fuller, Page, Stead, Caspall, Philpott, Williams, Elvery, Whibley, Fryer/Friar, Sutton, Grant, Allard, Packman, Steadman, Norris, Drury, Boughton, Spratt, Munday, Rabbit, Wildbore

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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Eillo

I'm just going through some old requests and wondering if you have made any progress with this or whether you are still requiring help?

Casalguidi :)
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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 12:46 BST (UK) »
No progress. Thanks for asking. I can't seem to find anything more on George
Simpson, Fuller, Page, Stead, Caspall, Philpott, Williams, Elvery, Whibley, Fryer/Friar, Sutton, Grant, Allard, Packman, Steadman, Norris, Drury, Boughton, Spratt, Munday, Rabbit, Wildbore

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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 13:23 BST (UK) »
Is this John in 1841 working as a male servant at Royton Chapel House in Lenham?

HO107/459/20 Folio 6 page 4
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 14:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this entry. It may be my George norms' brother John. I hope to find my direct ancestor George as I can't seem to find where he is hiding in 1841
Simpson, Fuller, Page, Stead, Caspall, Philpott, Williams, Elvery, Whibley, Fryer/Friar, Sutton, Grant, Allard, Packman, Steadman, Norris, Drury, Boughton, Spratt, Munday, Rabbit, Wildbore

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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 15:32 BST (UK) »
1851 census
HO107 piece 1618 folio 225 page 3
Timbold Hill, Lenham
Thomas PHILPOT head age 62 farmer of 104 acres  born Ashford
Sarah  wife age 77 born Pluckley
George NORRIS single age 36 waggoner born Harrietsham
George EASON age 17 waggoner's mate born Lenham
Jane KEMSLEY age 14 general servant born Bredgar
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 17:13 BST (UK) »
Wow I do believe you found him! Something wrong with my sleuthing skills as I swear I looked everyplace I could think of!  Thank you so much!  Would you have a peek in the next census year where I've lost him? Just if you've got time and a bit of pity for me ...... :-)
Simpson, Fuller, Page, Stead, Caspall, Philpott, Williams, Elvery, Whibley, Fryer/Friar, Sutton, Grant, Allard, Packman, Steadman, Norris, Drury, Boughton, Spratt, Munday, Rabbit, Wildbore

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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 17:23 BST (UK) »
The 1841 census is more tricky with ages rounded down and only county of birth given.

No one's jumping out at me at the moment.  :-\
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: NORRIS, PHILPOTT, FULLER, EARL in Lenham & Pluckley Kent
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 October 10 18:37 BST (UK) »
How about this one?

HO107/464/1 folio 17 page 3
George NORRISS age 25 M.S. born in county
living in the household of James HATCH
at Chegworth, Ulcombe.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
 All UK census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk