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Offline Zelley

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1890's - Hope Way & Hope Street, Weymouth
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 29 July 06 09:12 BST (UK) »
Well had another look at the folks residing in the Hope Street area in 1891.  Some old familiar names including
Lovell, Grant, Carter, Pearce,  Ellis, Randall, Zelley, Symes
and Tizard.   In some cases the various names are connected
such as Lovell and Grant.

Of interest, one Elizabeth Bellamy ZELLEY was residing at the digs of her sister Charlotte Lydia (Zelley) Pearce.  Elsewhere
at Hope Way - retired mariner William Grant was residing at the home of his son-in-law Richard LOVELL.

If we travel back in time, some of the names can be traced to the Fleet, Chickerell & Langton Herring area while others are from the Wyke Regis area.

The Bellamy name can be traced to one Ann Charlotte BELLAMY.  She married Thomas WHITE of Wyke Regis.

Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations

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Re: Hope to Trinity in Weymouth
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 26 April 08 10:28 BST (UK) »
Zelley
It was good to read your writings about 'Hope tp Trinity' in Weymouth. Some of the Jolliffes you mentioned would have been my ancestors.

The road names you mentioned are very familiar and there is still an 'Old Rooms Inn'

Debbie

Debbie

It has been a long time since we touched on the folks of Hope, Cove and Trinity
in Weymouth.  Any additions or comments are welcome from others.


Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations

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Re: Hope to Trinity in Weymouth
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 01:14 BST (UK) »
Hi, i was reading about hope to trinity in weymouth, i was born a Jolliffe in 1972 but was adopted in that year as well, i have traced back my grandfather back to when he was born in 1918 in weymouth but i have hit a brick wall, can you help me to find away around it.
Cheers

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JOLLIFFE in Weymouth region 1900 to 1918
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, i was reading about hope to trinity in weymouth, i was born a Jolliffe in 1972 but was adopted in that year as well, i have traced back my grandfather back to when he was born in 1918 in weymouth but i have hit a brick wall, can you help me to find away around it.
Cheers

Could you provide his first name.

Two born in 1918 in the Weymouth region were
Albert H and William A. Jolliffe
Maiden names of mothers were Bishop and Cook.

Possible marriages:
1900:  Henry Richard Jolliffe and Ellen Rhoda Bishop
1915:  Henry F. Jolliffe and Alice Cook

There was a Henry Francis Jolliffe born in 1893.
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations


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Re: Cove Street/Row in Weymouth
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 11:15 BST (UK) »
Arthur Jolliffe lived in Cove Street (Cove Row?) in 1861 and 1871. He died 9 December 1899 - although in Upwey - not in the outer harbour area of Weymouth.

His parents - William Jolliffe and Sarah Cheney -  lived in Cove Street in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses. 

William Jolliffe was a drayman for the brewery - I wonder therefore if they lived ina brewery owned house as in much later years a number of houses in that vicinity were owned by the brewery and let to employees.
Debbie

In 1861, some of mine were at No. 1 Cove
e.g. Thomas & Ann (Bellamy) WHITE, their
daughter Emma Martha White who would later marry John Flisher, and Charlotte Lydia Zelley was at the White abode at the time of the Census.

A few places away there was the widow Elizabeth JOLLIFFE.  And recorded in No. 9 was your
William and Sarah JOLLIFFE

Fast forward to 1891 and William Jolliffe is still residing on Cove (No. 7)
close to some of my relatives such as Richard Zelley (No. 13)
and Lydia (White) Simpson and her niece Emma Flisher
(sister of George John Flisher).

Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations

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Re: Hope to Trinity in Weymouth
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 11:44 BST (UK) »
Hi

My grand dads name is William Arthur Jolliffe and his mothers maiden name was cook.
i know that he married a Janet Cape, and they had a duaghter which is my mum.

I have just bought a Morris Minor and the first owners was a Reginald Tom Jolliffe and a Arthur Percival Jolliffe and they lived at Willow Farm, Yetminster, Sherborne.

Have you come across these name yet?

Cheers

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Re: Hope to Trinity in Weymouth
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 21:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Paulnet30

I was also born a Jolliffe and have a fair bit of Jolliffe  information (much of it worked on by others before I got it) so lets see if we can link any of this.

From the earlier messages on this link between you and Zelly it looks as though your grandfather was the William Arthur Jolliffe born to Henry Francis Jolliffe and Alice Cook.

Henry and Alice were married in the apr/may/jun quarter of 1915.

And as Zelly said there is a Henry Francis Jolliffe born in 1893.

Bear in mind much of the rest I am saying is supposition from quick viewings of census and marriage/birth record on the web.

In the 1901 census there is a Henry Jolliffe aged 8. Full family is
Francis Jolliffe age 30 born Portland
Jane Jolliffe age 31 born Weymouth
Beatrice Jolliffe age 9
Henry Jolliffe age 8
Herbert Jolliffe age 3
William Jolliffe age 1
Living at 12 Oakley Place, Weymouth

There is an 1890 marriage of Francis George Jolliffe in Weymouth District to Jane Swindles. Which would be about right for the ages of the children.

In 1891 Francis and Jane are living at 1 Jubilee Terrace with his mother Eliza Jolliffe.

In 1881 Frank (Francis) is with his family at Cheslie Portland.
William Jolliffe 42 Plumber born Barnett (this may complicate things)
Eliza Jolliffe 43 Weymouth
William Jolliffe 19 Weymouth
Eliza Jolliffe 17 Weymouth
Alfred Jolliffe 16 Weymouth
Frank Jolliffe 10 Weymouth (they may have reported this incorrectly)
Mivia Jolliffe 9 Portland (daughter but name not clear)

In 1871 Victoria Terrace Chisel Portland
William Jolliffe 32 Plumber, Painter & Glazier born Dorset (different from 1881)
Eliza Jolliffe 36 Dorset
William Jolliffe 9 Dorset
Mary A Jolliffe 7 Dorset (is this the same child as Eliza in 1881)
Alfred Jolliffe 5 Dorset
Francis 8 months Dorset

In 1862 there is marriage entry in Weymouth District which include two names of William Jolliffe and Eliza Randalls.

Remember this is supposition from looking at the census records and would all need checking - but it may be a start.

Regards

Debbie



Wiltshire - Birmingham, Dublin, Devizes
Jolliffe - Portesham/Portland, Dorset,
Grimme - London,
Masters - Alton Pancras/Piddletrenthide, Dorset,
Rogers - Broadwey, Dorset
Townsend - Upwey/Evershot, Dorset
Fuzzard - Portland, Dorset,
Mellish/Melluish/Melhuish - Broad Clyst, Devon
Lakeman - London
Cornford - Shorne, Kent


Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hope to Trinity in Weymouth - Jolliffe
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 22:03 BST (UK) »
In 1841 there is a William Jolliffe born in Barnet London.

If you were only to get limited certificates this birth and the possible marriage of William and Eliza may be a good bet.

Regards

Debbie
Wiltshire - Birmingham, Dublin, Devizes
Jolliffe - Portesham/Portland, Dorset,
Grimme - London,
Masters - Alton Pancras/Piddletrenthide, Dorset,
Rogers - Broadwey, Dorset
Townsend - Upwey/Evershot, Dorset
Fuzzard - Portland, Dorset,
Mellish/Melluish/Melhuish - Broad Clyst, Devon
Lakeman - London
Cornford - Shorne, Kent


Census Information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Hope to Trinity in Weymouth
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 31 July 08 01:01 BST (UK) »
To expand the JOLLIFFE discussion, I have added a thread to the one name interest section.  Hopefully, some of us can discuss the various branches and attempt to outline the various family groups.
Zelley,  Lovell, Godbold, Woods, Phillips, Lewis, Emery,
Magee, Baker, White. Flisher, Kyne, Tilston, Valence/Vallens,
Mabb/Mabbe, Bellamy, Selley, Martha Smith, Arno (of Dartmouth, Devon}.
Dorset, London, Warwick, East Anglia, Kent,  Devon
North Wales          

The ancestors lived here and there, in many scattered
places, with various occupations