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Offline Pauline_Hutton

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Workhouse query - complete
« on: Sunday 25 September 05 17:30 BST (UK) »
Hi all - didn't know where to post this so apologies if in wrong place.   I have come across two ancestors who went into workhouses claiming to be widowers but I know they werent!  In one case one wife  claimed to be a widow but the other wife claimed  to be married.  What would have been their reasons for doing so?   ???


Pauline   :)
East London:  Chamberlain, McCall, Selby, Coleman,  Jones, Humphries, Davies
South London:  Wannell, Carr, Sullivan, Holland
Kent: Day
Norfolk: Knopwood Caulk
Flintshire:  Davies; Jones
Ireland:  Rowe (Kildare & Dundalk), Collins (Cork)
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Re: Workhouse query
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 September 05 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline

This might depend upon a number of things ................ age, poverty, desertion, childbirth, illness etc.. 

Do the admission registers give a reason for admittance?

I know for certain that one of my ancestors (in the 1910s) went into the workhouse to have children and lied about her name and status - she was married and claimed not to be - just to get the limited care available!

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Re: Workhouse query
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 September 05 18:17 BST (UK) »
Benefit fraud - its not new folks ;D

My family kept very quiet when my Gran died in the workhouse and the parish buried her at a cost of one guinea.
Beard Voyce, Scrivens in Worcestershire

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Re: Workhouse query
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 September 05 19:21 BST (UK) »
Hi again - in both cases it was the husbands who went into the workhouse.  This took place in 1861 and 1871 respectively.  I thought that if a family hit hard times the whole family went in as well.  In one of the cases the husband was found to be living with his family again in 1881!  I haven't seen any of the records yet but when next in the UK I will do some research on it.   I hadn't thought of it as benefit fraud though - seems a bit extreme doesn't it - I thought people made a point of keeping away from workhouses not actively trying to get into one!  :-\

pauline
East London:  Chamberlain, McCall, Selby, Coleman,  Jones, Humphries, Davies
South London:  Wannell, Carr, Sullivan, Holland
Kent: Day
Norfolk: Knopwood Caulk
Flintshire:  Davies; Jones
Ireland:  Rowe (Kildare & Dundalk), Collins (Cork)
Staffs: Carr, Powell


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Re: Workhouse query
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 September 05 20:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline

There have been cases of where the Husband has a job but they have nowhere to live. Sometimes the wife and children would go into the Workhouse so they were not on the streets till the Husband found a place to live.

By claiming not to be married or seperated they could stay.

Contrary to popular belief, it was possible to leave the Workhouse if you wished. I have a file on Hatfield Admissions and Discharges 1834-61 and there are hundreds of cases of people taking their own Discharge.

Offline Pauline_Hutton

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Re: Workhouse query
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 September 05 17:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lenmaylin - this has certainly proved to be a bit of a puzzle.   :-\   

Regards
Pauline  :)
East London:  Chamberlain, McCall, Selby, Coleman,  Jones, Humphries, Davies
South London:  Wannell, Carr, Sullivan, Holland
Kent: Day
Norfolk: Knopwood Caulk
Flintshire:  Davies; Jones
Ireland:  Rowe (Kildare & Dundalk), Collins (Cork)
Staffs: Carr, Powell