BBC: A Challenge for Rootschatters

[Silvilocks]

I think I've found Alice on the 1901 (and she isn't mine - sob). Can somebody confirm that it's OK for us to put Alice's details on here, or would it best not to for now in case any living children are upset by it? If anyone wants the census ref. until this is confirmed then I will send it by PM - Zoe, will send it to you now, in case you're still hunting for it.

Silvilocks

Added: I've now used up the credits that I had - I've searched to the end of 1926 for any siblings of Kenneth's, with no luck. Of course it's possible that his mother died soon after he was born and that his father remarried and moved.

[sarah e]

I should think it would be ok to post Alice on here. If its from 1901 it is outside the 100 yrs closure jobby. what a shame shes not yours   

[Silvilocks]

Alice in 1901:

Alice Ives abt 1896  Bromley, London, England Daughter 
Annie Ives abt 1894  Bromley, London, England Daughter 
Eleanor Ives abt 1892  Bromley, London, England Daughter 
Frederick Ives abt 1890  Bromley, London, England Son 
Michael Ives abt 1859  Kirby Cane, Norfolk, England Head   
Rosa Ives abt 1860  Parham, Suffolk, England Wife  
Rosa Ives abt 1888  Kings Cross, London, England Daughter 

Bromley, London
RG13/350 Folio 36 
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Checked with Sarah who thinks the following is OK to post - if there's a problem, could a mod please edit as necessary. Re Peter Sharman - none of the birth's that Zoe found look right for him, and I've just realized how the date's work out. Peter was born in 1921/22 but his father didn't divorce his wife until 1928. Would the child of an unmarried couple be registered in the father's name at that time, or should we be looking for Peter Gabrielson?

Silvilocks

[jorose]

I've found children of unmarried couples under either mother's name or father's name.  If he was still married at the time, it would be likely that he'd be found as Gabrielson (or Gabrielsen - I think Elena appears on the 1901 as Caroline Gabrielsen, has two sisters and a brother Morris, who died in WWI).

[samesizedfeet]

just about to start lunch break so I'll look again for him under Gabrielson as I munch.

[sarah e]

Now that is either dedication or addiction !!!!!!!

[samesizedfeet]

yaaaaaaaaaaaay - got him

1922 Sep Q
Peter S S Gabrielson
Ref: ************

S S = Siegfried Sharman??

the only other Gabrielsons in the little bit I searched (1921S - 1922S) were in W Derby - so same rough area

Moderator Comment: Any births less than 100 years ago = Discretion, please !

sorry - so excited I wasnt thinking.

[samesizedfeet]

okay - I'm flustered - any guidance as to which way to go next?

A)  Do I look for any possible births for Sharmans from the 1st marriage? (considering the history we can't be sure they'll even be half siblings)

B)  Do I look for other Gabrielson births with unmarried mothers?

C)  Do I look for a marriage between Peters mother and father after 1928? (this would narrow down what surname we'd be looking for siblings under)

D)  All of the above

[Silvilocks]

okay - I'm flustered - any guidance as to which way to go next?

A)  Do I look for any possible births for Sharmans from the 1st marriage? (considering the history we can't be sure they'll even be half siblings)

B)  Do I look for other Gabrielson births with unmarried mothers?

C)  Do I look for a marriage between Peters mother and father after 1928? (this would narrow down what surname we'd be looking for siblings under)

D)  All of the above

Well done you - did you manage to eat as well?

I think I'd go for B or C first, and keep the half-siblings in reserve. D is a good option if your boss goes home early on Fridays.

Just to add to your list, has anyone looked at whether Leonard Moss may have had any children? I know we have his wife's name, but not sure if we have a date of marriage.

Going to read the thread again to check - and then probably off to buy some more credits.

Silvilocks