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Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« on: Saturday 14 August 04 11:15 BST (UK) »


I am Looking for any information on the Kearnes family located in London England around 1800, Iam aware they came from ireland due to the potato famine, they were originally, Kearns but change via depole when they got to london....this is a the family story but do not have any concrete info or data?

any ideas?? ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 15 August 04 09:17 BST (UK) »
Hallo Kae
Where to start - London is split into around 30 districts - each has a CD - there is no full index of 1861 yet and there will be more than one family with the same surname.
To help us help you, do you have any Christian names of these people, any idea when they came or what town in Ireland ?  or what district they went to?
Without a bit more info it will be a struggle - none of the earlier census are indexed
There are 10 spelt Kearns in the 1861 so far None Kearnes, 9 spelt Kearn
Can you ask a few more questions of your family perhaps?
Good Luck, Cougar
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 15 August 04 11:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Courgar,

Thanks for your quick reply, yes all good points... you can tell Im new at this...
Im slowly peicing together all that stuff, and hope to beable to ask more concise stuff. as it stands i know:

The earliest relative that has been traced is John Kearnes born 1815-1870 Sutton Surrey England-...(married Elizabeth -unknown-).... the Kearnes family have definately lived in and around London since then.... but the family Story(!!) indicates it was the first place they moved to from ireland. They changed their family name from kearns to kearnes because of postal issues..they lived near another family of kearns...unrelated?!

if that triggers any thing let me know ;D ;D ;D

Kae
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 15 August 04 12:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Kae,
am just off to bed so will have a look in the morning for you to see what I can find.
Cougar
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 August 04 04:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Kae, am up and running -
can you work backwards from your grandparents  - if we can get you into the 1861 bracket can perhaps go backwards from there rather than trying to go forwards where there are no indexed records.
Have you tried the IGI yet?  Go to
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/customsearchresults.asp  You will have to go through and sort through the ones from Ireland - tick the box on the left and download them separately - there are 184 Kearnes to choose from but if you don't know Christian names not sure how you will sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 August 04 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hi courgar


'John Kearnes born 1815-1870 Sutton Surrey England-...(married Elizabeth -unknown-).... A possible maiden name has come up..Harden,
My greatgranfrather had this middle name, and the story goes its was a maiden on his mothers, this i think not true -(Rose/ie Clarke).
The name it used in as a middle name all the way back to my ggggranduncles/aunts and this dates back to 1848. so this could be my Elizabeth unknown?

John Kearnes (1815-1870) first born son Was James Kearnes (07/01/1845-24/11/1861) died on board ship "statesman", this fact seems to suggest an attempt to go to US/Oz in 1861, either to join others or to start afresh??
A relative in canada found out this info, but think this might be interesting lead.

this family tree business is very consuming, eh I must remember to go outside once in a while!! :D
thanks for your help am tralling through every kearnes/kearns database as we speak

Kae ;D
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 August 04 11:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Kae
Yep sure is time consuming - I'm retired and sort of fit it in with my volunteer work - that's the only way some days that I see the sun (or rain).
There is no John nor James listed on thre 1861 index - but that is not yet fully transcribed so don't give up hope there.
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 6 
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
 1. John KEARNS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1814 , , Ireland
 
 2. John <KERNS> - International Genealogical Index
Gender: <Male> Birth: 1815 , Galway, Ireland
 
 3. John Kerns - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1815 , Galway, Ireland
 
 4. John Cairns - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1817 Of, Diocese Of Down And Connor And Dromore, Ulster Province, Ireland
 
 5. John Kearns - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1817 Carlow, Carlow, Ireland
 
 6. John Cairns - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1817 Diocese Of Down And Connor And Dromore, Ulster Province, Ireland 
 
This is the only James coming up with a John as a father
1. JAMES KEARNS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 JUL 1843 Carlow, Carlow, Ireland
Sorry Kae - was John born in Ireland or Surrey or did he die in Surrey?
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 August 04 13:03 BST (UK) »
at the moment im transcribing my family bible which has john Kearnes 1815 etc with place names and marriaged date etc will forward a copy if you think this would help?? its taking a while ...

Im using a gap in my employment to do this research... ! just qualified as a teacher !!

Karen
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Re: Looking for Kearnes, Kearns
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 August 04 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Cougar,

John Kearnes: b. 09/02/1815, Sutton Surrey England. d. 06/12/1870, (55) Sutton Surrey England.
Married: Elizabeth -unknown-poss: Harden. b. 23/11/1814, Surrey. d. 12/10/1861, (47) Hastings Sussex.
5 Children:

1, James Kearnes: b. 07/01/1845, Surrey. d. 24/11/1861, (16) on board ship "statesman" -owned by George marshall of London.  

2, John Harden Kearnes: b. 09/04/1847, Surrey. d. ?
Married: Mary Ann Harris. Cloudesley Sq, Islington: -07/11/1848.
b. 09/04/1847, Surrey.-(whose birthday?) d. ?
4 Children:
 
1, John Archibald Kearnes, b. 31/03/1873. Surrey. d.?
2, Grace Elizabeth Kearnes, b. 30/06/1874 Surrey d.?-we share this birthday & middle Name!
3, William Henry Kearnes, b. 1876. Surrey. d.?
4, Maud Kearnes, b. 1878. Surrey. d?

3, Elizabeth Harden Kearnes: b. 15/12/1848, Surrey. d. 04/11/1867, Sutton Surrey.
Married: William Henry Green, Benhilton Church, Sutton Surrey: 06/10/1866.
b. 1848, England. d. ?
1 Child:
 
Thomas Frasier Green, b.01/10/1867, Surrey. d.? -appears Elizabeth’s death related to birth of Thomas she died 1 month after his birth?

4, Thomas Harden Kearnes: b. 09/02/1851, Surrey. d. ?[**]
Married: Sophia Vallis, St John’s Church. Redhill, Surrey-12/02/1872.
b. 1849, Wincanton, Somerset. d. ?
8 children:

1, Thomas John Kearnes, b. 16/12/1872, Surrey. d. 14/01/1891.
2, Albert Victor Kearnes, b. 11/08 or 09/1874, Islington or Surrey. d. ?.
Married: Rosanna Mary Clarke,
b.1873. d. 03/02/1937 last known address The Shanty, Bourne end, Hemel Hempstead.
3 Children:

1, Albert Harden Kearnes, b. 30/11/1902, Surrey. d.1968.
Married: Winifred Daisy Ellis,
b.1904, London-east end?  d.1988, St John’s Hospital, Chelmsford Essex.
1 Child:

Eric Albert Kearnes, b.19/05/1926, Leytonstone.
Married: Audrey Lillian Percy, Gidea Park, All Saints Church, -15/07/1950.
b.13/03/1928, Whitechapel. d.19/05/2004, Broomfield Hospital, Chelmsford Essex.
   2 Children:

1, Gillian Kearnes, b.12/09/1953, St Peters Hospital, Maldon Essex.
Married: David Haywood Leech, Great Baddow, Essex,-14/10/1972.
b.21/02/1953, St Johns Hospital, Chelmsford, Essex.
      2 Children:

1, Stephen Andrew Leech, b.30/04/1974, Hanover Germany, Brit military hospital.
2, Karen Elizabeth Leech, b.30/06/1976, Hanover Germany, Brit military hospital.
   
2, Richard John Kearnes, b.28/04/1957, St Johns Hospital Chelmsford.
Married: Beverley Hewitt, Birmingham England, -18/04/1990.
b.07/12/1962, Birmingham.
      2 Children:

               1, Hannah Jane Kearnes, b. 24/03/1993, Colchester. Essex.
               2, Emily Alice Kearnes, b. 27/03/1996. Colchester, Essex.

2, Stanley Victor Kearnes, b. 13/04/1908, London. d. 1969. Stoneleigh, Surrey.
    Married: Jessie Winifred King, b. 11/11/1907. d. ?
   3 children:

1, Stella Mary Kearnes, b.19/03/1939, Surrey.
Married: Michael John Taylor, -1966.
b.07/12/1937, d. 17/10/2003, Bristol.
   2 Children:
   
   1, Jane Taylor, b.18/03/1967, Bristol.
   2, Robert Taylor, b21/06/1968, Bristol.
   Married: Rachel Ann Tillotson, Iron Acton Bristol,-31/05/1997.
   b. 27/01/1969.
   
2, Roger Martin Kearnes, b.19/11/1942, Kingston upon Thames, Surrey.
Married: Christine Margaret Daw, Cuddington, Surrey, England, -20/06/1964.
b 1943, Surrey England.
   3 Children:
   
   1, Russell Spencer Kearnes, b. 01/03/1968, Vancouver, bri;t Columbia, Canada.
   Married: Laura Bucahanan, Vancouver, brit; Columbia, Canada.-24/04/1997/
   b. 02/01/1969.
      2 Children:
      
      1, Quinlan B Kearnes, b.12/11/1998, , Vancouver, brit; Columbia, Canada.
      2, Veronica B Kearnes, b. 16/11/2000, Vancouver, brit; Columbia, Canada
   
2, Oliver Martin Kearnes, b.26/04/1970, Vancouver, brit; Columbia, Canada.
3, Heather Lucy Kearnes, b05/10/1972, Vancouver, brit; Columbia, Canada.
Married: David William McKague,
b. 1967.
   2 Children:

   1, Hayley Christine McKague, b.15/12/2001, Vancouver, brit Columbia, Canada.
   2, Dylan James McKague, b.12/05/2004, Vancouver, brit Columbia, Canada
   
3, John Lindsey Kearnes, b. 30/08/1944, Kendall Cumbria, England.
            Married: Isabella Murray Currie, -1969.
b.30/03/1942 Scotland.

3, Kenneth Thomas Kearnes, b.1912, Surrey. d.1981.
      Married: Mary Unknown, Montrose Scotland, cWW2
      b. c1910. d. 2002/3.
         2 Children
         
         1, Peter Kearnes, b. c1947, London.
         Married: Alison –unknown-,b.? d.?
            3-Adopted-Children:
         2, Celia Kearnes, b. c1950/1, London. =California
         married: Rob Walford, London.
            2/3 Children

3, Lily Amy Kearnes, b. 15/02/1877, Surrey. d?

4, Ernest Sidney Kearnes, b. 01/08/1879, Surrey. d.?

5, Constance ‘Connie’ Mary Kearnes, b. 17/06/1882, Surrey. d.?

6, Beatrice Kearnes, b. 06/03/1885, Surrey. d.?

7, Frederick Kearnes, b. 02/07/1887, Surrey. d.?

8, Charles ‘Charlie’ Kearnes, b. 28/03/1890, Surrey. d.?
Married: Nellie May Spong, St Marys Church Ramsden Health, 05/06/1917.
b.1895. d,?
1 Child:

Robert Thomas Harden Kearnes, b.1920 d. RAF over Germany WWII.

5, Samuel Philip Kearnes: b. 14/11/1852, Surrey. d. 19/01/1892.
Married: Matilda Priddy, in Cloudesley Sq, Islington, 27/04/1874. b.? d.? children?





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transcribed from front of bible, three addresses,
(if) Stolen from:
Thomas Harden Kearnes,

St Earlswood Rd, Redhill Surrey.

16 Frome st, St Peters, Islington.

48 Marmont rd, Peckham.
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