William Morgan and Elizabeth Arnold

[buckleys chance]

Hello people.  I'm still trying to find the birth/death records of this married couple. It's suggested on Ancestry.com that William was born 05/05/1825 to George and Ann Morgan (Cadoxton, Glamorganshire) and Elizabeth Arnold was born to Matthew Arnold and Margaret Jenkins in 1883 (Morriston Glamorganshire). It's also suggested on Ancestry.com that William died 29/09/1891 Llantrisant Glamorgan and Elizabeth 13/04/1880 Tonna, Neath, Glamorgan.  The last known address I have for William is Tin Works, Bridgend, Glamorgan (1881 census).  Unable to find him in the 1891 census.  The last known address for Elizabeth is 21 Charles Street, Britany Ferry, Glamorganshire (1871 census with William). I've looked on GRO.UK and FindMyPast with no success.  I also cant find William or Elizabeth in the 1831 or 1841 Census
PS.  Please note there is a spelling mistake on their marriage certificate 18th July 1847 (Harnold) in the parish of Llantrisant.                 Forgive me if I have asked this before.
Regards Elaine (Australia)

[mckha489]

Sorry Elaine I am confused.

Is the married couple you refer to

William MORGAN and Elizabeth ARNOLD? Do you have their marriage certificate? What does it say? Who are the witnesses?

Added, please check your dates. I think you may have a typo in there

[mckha489]

deleted info you  have already.

previous post https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889441.msg7630399#msg7630399
and another https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=888356.msg7617446#msg7617446

[buckleys chance]

mckha489.

My apologies.  I can now see that I have.  Obviously, I am still on the search.  Thank you for your input.

Regards Elaine (Australia)

[osprey]

One of the other posts mentions the baptism for Griffith, the brother of George. It was a non-conformist baptism - Capel y Cwm Calvinistic Methodist Chapel at Cadoxton juxta Neath. Not all non-conformist registers survive, and even less are online. You are lucky that Griffith's baptism was on the first page of a register that was surrendered to the GRO in the 1830s. Luckier still that Ann's maiden name is mentioned. The first page of the register states that it had been in the custody of two of the elders of the chapel and some non-conformist registers moved with the minister so you can understand how they could go astray.

Is this the last census you have for William? Tin Works Row, Llanharan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2W9-678G?lang=en

Father George died 24 Nov 1882. Adminstration of his estate was granted to Griffith Morgan & Mary Hughes, wife of William Hughes, two of the next of kin.

I wonder about this William in 1891. Also in Tin Works Row, right sort of occupation, place of birth given the same as that of his new wife.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HMGL-5T2?lang=en

 

[osprey]

possible for Elizabeth in 1841 - ages were rounded down to nearest 5

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W7-SF1?lang=en

The 1841 census is the earliest to be of any use. Earlier ones were head counts and many do not survive.

The marriage in 1847 was in Llansamlet, not Llantrisant.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Llansamlet

There is a burial 4 May 1880 for Elizabeth Morgan 56 of Tonna, but Tonna is the other side of Neath from Briton Ferry so unlikely
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/LlantwitJuxtaNeath/Tonna

Possible death reg for William if he was the one from that 1891 census
William Morgan 64 sept qtr 1891 Bridgend vol 11a pg 377

[osprey]

the 2 Rowland stepsons emigrated to the US. Ivor William married in Guernsey, Ohio in 1896 and Ann Morgan was living with the couple in 1900

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM8Q-KMX?lang=en

Although she is Ann Rowland on Ivor's marriage

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Z8Q7-H53Z?lang=en