Clara Payne

[EdCan]

Would like to trace Clara. She was born 26 Jun 1863 Camberwell to parents James Payne and Emma Chappell. In 1871 and 1881 she is with her parents and siblings in St George Camberwell. I could not find her in 1891. In 1901 she is living with her sister Selina and Emma Wiseman in St Olave Southwark. In 1911 Selina and Emma are still together but no Clara.
I  looked at 1903 Shoreditch Payne /Broughton marriage and the 1905 Reigate Payne/Bushell marriage but neither are my Clara. There do not appear to be any likely deaths for her
Anyone with suggestions?

Ed

[amondg]

Clara's brother Henry died 26 February 1925 he left a will, sister Selina Payne spinster is named as his executor.
His address 6 Clifton Square, Albert Road, Peckham. Ref Probate Index.

It may tell you if Clara is still living. 

Henry never married and lived for many years with his spinster sister Mary Ann Payne, yet she was not named as executor, a possible death being reg. Camberwell -1921 age 64

 

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Have you considered this death, this lady is in Ilford Essex in 1939 aged 64 and single, no dob ---
Special L London Country Council, Redbridge, Ilford M.B., Essex, England

Name   Clara Payne
Death Age   86
Birth Date   abt 1863
Registration Date   Oct 1949
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District   Ilford
Inferred County   Essex
Volume   5a
Page   304

Digital GRO death available for £3

SS

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claybury_Hospital

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Camberwell Old Cemetery - All in the same grave

Henry Payne (1859) died 26 February 1925 buried 3 March 1925 Square 11 Grave 17679

Mary Payne ( 1857)buried 24 December 1921  Square 11  Grave 17679

Alice Payne (1881) died 22 January 1931 buried 27 January 1931  Square 11 Grave 17679
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Alice is the daughter of James Payne and his first wife Alice Payne married 1880 Reg. St Saviour Southwark.
When Alice 1881-1931- died she was of 69 Clifton Crescent Peckham her will left to Kate Payne widow probably her stepmother. (formerly Kate Lunnun married James Payne 1887 Reg. St Saviour)

James was possibly Henry's older brother requires further investigation.

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Info only, the Agnes Payne (grand daughter) in 1891/1901 is the daughter of Mary Ann Payne. She marries Henry A Doggrell in 1907 (image on Ancestry, his surname Doggrett). Together in 1939 and she dies 1963.

SS

[EdCan]

Have you considered this death, this lady is in Ilford Essex in 1939 aged 64 and single, no dob ---
Special L London Country Council, Redbridge, Ilford M.B., Essex, England

Name   Clara Payne
Death Age   86
Birth Date   abt 1863
Registration Date   Oct 1949
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District   Ilford
Inferred County   Essex
Volume   5a
Page   304

Digital GRO death available for £3

SS

added
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claybury_Hospital

You came up trumps. Clara died 15 Nov 1949 as the result of ruptured development aneurism associated with hypertension. Reported by nephew Leonard Payne


Very much appreciated
Ed

Added- Forgot to mention that death cert also showed father as James Payne deceased silk oiler

[EdCan]

Camberwell Old Cemetery - All in the same grave

Henry Payne (1859) died 26 February 1925 buried 3 March 1925 Square 11 Grave 17679

Mary Payne ( 1857)buried 24 December 1921  Square 11  Grave 17679

Alice Payne (1881) died 22 January 1931 buried 27 January 1931  Square 11 Grave 17679
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Alice is the daughter of James Payne and his first wife Alice Payne married 1880 Reg. St Saviour Southwark.
When Alice 1881-1931- died she was of 69 Clifton Crescent Peckham her will left to Kate Payne widow probably her stepmother. (formerly Kate Lunnun married James Payne 1887 Reg. St Saviour)

James was possibly Henry's older brother requires further investigation.

Appreciate the burial info

many thanks
Ed

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Sadly it looks like she's in an institution in Ilford in 1939 - listed as  incapacitated (sorry just spotted some of this was already posted alongside the death)

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Possble in 1891? Clara Payne 25, b London. Servant in Conduit St, St George Hannover Square

There's a few workhouse admissions in Holborn of a Clara Payne approx the right age in 1899 & 1900, which seem to lead to her being admitted to an asylum. this person was an umbrella maker so not sure if yours

Added: I think not the right Clara. Heath appeared to be the name of the asylum, which was in Bexley. There's a  register entry for a Clara admitted in 1900 and died in Bexley in 1924