Lisle Family Northumberland

[Genie24]

I am trying to find out more about this particular Lisle family from Northumberland. My reasons for researching them are quite complicated as I believe that they may be more significant than they appear to be via the mere connection via marriage to one of my Hall ancestors.

This family appears on the 1841 census living in Elswick, Newcastle Upon Tyne. Father John Lisle, a Cartman born about 1791, wife Mary born about 1803 Berwick. Children Alexander and Sarah, both recorded as aged 15 (born about 1826) Jobson, aged 12 ( born about 1829) and Harriet aged 10 (born about 1831. They are mis transcribed as Liste rather than Lisle.

Jobson married Ann Hall, born 1827 Lowick, sometime around 1849. Ann Hall was the daughter of my great x 3 grandfather Anthony Hall born 1813 Lowick's  sister Isabella Hall 1799 and her husband William Hall 1791. They were cousins.

Ann Hall appears on the  1841 census living with my Anthony Hall as his servant at Low Row, Sunderland. She was his niece. Also living there are 2 boarders including William Lisle. These boarders were both recorded as Baker's Apprentices.

I have long since suspected that this William Lisle was related to the Jobson Lisle married to Ann Hall and that this is how Ann and William met.

Anthony Hall appears on the 1851 census living at  13 George Street, Sunderland. He is  recorded as Baker employing 1 man.  This  was his nephew, Andrew Hall. He was the son of his sister, Isabella Hall and Ann Hall's brother.

Then Anthony moved to Newcastle and continued his baker's business there on St. Peter's Quay but William Lisle remained in Sunderland. I found him on every census  until his death in 1881. He lived in streets very close to George Street and continued working a  baker.  The data from the census records his date of birth around 1824 Lowick.

I have been able to find the baptism records of the oldest and youngest children of John Lisle and Mary.

Alexander Lisle born 4th August 1821 Stamford, Parish of Embleton. Baptised Scotch Church, Alnwick on the 21st. Alexander son to John Lisle Hynd to ? Thomson of Stamford Parish of Embleton and Mary....

Harriet born 18th May 1830 Wooler. Baptised 7th June 1830 West Chapel,Wooler.

But no sign of Sarah, who was supposedly the same age as Alexander but was clearly not or Jobson.

Neither can I find a marriage for Jobson and Ann Hall or   birth or any evidence linking these Lisles for William Lisle (baker's apprentice).

Jobson records his birth place differently on every census - 1841 Northumberland, 1851 Hazelbridge, 1861 Lowick, 1871 Wooler, 1881 Newcastle Upon Tyne.

Does anyone know where Hazelbridge was located. I can't seem to find anything about it.

I am very keen to learn more about these Lisles as I believe they may have been a family my great x 3 grandmother Mary Ann Aitken was brought up with when her mother died. I have often wondered how she got to be living in Sunderland and meet Anthony Hall. She was born in Berwick and that is where Mary Lisle was born. Some have her as Mary Ludlow but that marriage between Mary Ludlow and John Lisle wasn't until 1838 which was after all the children were born.

Sorry for the long post!

[AllanUK]

Can't find a Hazelbridge in Northumberland but there is a HAZELRIGG just a few miles west of Newcastle upon Tyne

[JenB]

Jobson records his birth place differently on every census - 1841 Northumberland, 1851 Hazelbridge, 1861 Lowick, 1871 Wooler, 1881 Newcastle Upon Tyne.

Does anyone know where Hazelbridge was located. I can't seem to find anything about it.

A place called Hazelrigg was a township of the parish of Chatton, which is fairly close to both Lowick and Wooler. A possibility?
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Chatton
https://northumberlandarchives.com/docs/Northumberland%20Farm%20Index%201860.pdf

[AllanUK]

Well found JEnB, I just came across that one a minute ago.

[Genie24]

Brilliant! Thanks! It shows that this is all in the same general area. I don't know whey people just didn't stick to the same birth place each time.

This all helps strengthen my theory that the Lisles were not only linked with my Halls from Lowick but I am convinced that my great x 3 Mary Ann Aitken was known to them too. She probably went with William Lisle to work for Anthony and ended up marrying him. They appear as man and wife in 1841 with a young baby who  sadly died later that year, but didn't actually marry until the following year at St. Hilda South Shields and I am finding strong links with the Lisles and St. Hilda, South Shields.

[mulberry-rose]

Perhaps not relevant but the similar name usage of this family is interesting;

Jobson Yeaman baptised at Warenford 7 Nov 1830 son of James Yeaman & Frances Lile

1841
Lucker Bamburgh
James Yeomans, 55
Frances Yeomans, 55
Alexander Yeomans, 25
Frances Yeomans, 18
Ralph Yeomans, 15
Jobson Yeomans, 10

1851
Lucker House, Lucker
James Yeomans, 62, widow b Ford
Jobson Yeomans, 20, b Ellingham
Ann Yeomans, 5, granddau b Bamburgh
Frances Lisle, 17, servant b Alnwick

—
B. 29 Dec 1782 bap 7 Jan 1783 Frances Lysle dau of John & Elizabeth, of Lucker Bambrough parish

John Lysle b 18 Aug 1785 bap 24 Aug 1785 son of John & Elizabeth of Cragyhall Belford

Ralph Lysle b 21 March 1791 bap 29 Mar Belford West Street son of John & Elizabeth of Shostown Bambrough

Matthew Lysle b 3 May 1793 bap 12 May 1793 Belford West Street son of John & Elizabeth of Shostown Bambrough

Ann Lysle b 18 Aug 1795 bap 27 Aug Belford West Street dau of John & Elizabeth of Spindlestown Bambrough

Sarah Lysle b 6 Nov 1797 bap 12 Nov Belford West Street son dau of John & Elizabeth of Spindleston, Bambrough

Jobson Lysle b 8 Jun 1800 bap 8 Jun 1800 Belford West Street son of John & Elizabeth of The Planting, Belford


Also to note:

Elizabeth Lysle, aged 76, wife of John buried 6 Jun 1799 St Mary Belford. Died 3 Jun 1799, nee Jobson, husband a shepherd

[Genie24]

Thank you so much. Yes, I think it may be relevant as the Frances on the 1841 census is Frances nee Lile which is clearly Lisle. She has incorporated a Lisle family name into her own family. Also the 1851 census has a Frances Lisle as a servant. I will definitely look into this. My motto is 'leave no stone unturned' and this is definitely worth investigating.

Many thanks!

[hanes teulu]

Spotted several mentions of "Hazelbridge, Chatton", "Hazelbridge, Belford" but in particular an item describing a fox hunt in the area. Several of the places mentioned can be found on this 1860 map and the course of the hunt followed but, again, mentions Hazelbridge rather than Hazelrigg.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/266663995#zoom=4.2&lat=2961&lon=17523&layers=BT

Morpeth Herald, 7 Apr 1877

[Genie24]

Oh, I didn't think to look at these old 1860s Ordnance Survey maps and I have literally just been looking at them a few days ago for Sunderland. They are great! I can see Hazelrigg on there and that is clearly where this is I think. It has clarified that anyway. Many thanks

I am still looking at those other  Yeoman/Lisles.