William Gill

[hexhamlad]

Looking to firm up details for William Gill b Prudhoe Norhumberland England 1876. There is a William Gill enlists  at Timaru NZ in 1917 and gives his next of kin as Brother Thomas Gill of Prudhoe. William then appears to pop up in 1939 records living at Greenside Durham England with widowed Sister Elizabeth. Did he return from New Zealand, how can I find out ?.

[CaroleW]

Connected post here

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=897017.msg7718308#msg7718308

[CaroleW]

Arrival London from Brisbane 9.6.1939

William Gill aged 63  occ Clerk - address 39 Stanhope St Greenside Co Durham

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GILL, WILLIAM       aged 63 
GRO Reference: 1940  J Quarter in DURHAM CENTRAL  Volume 10A  Page 734

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Taken from other post.

Can I please offer up a different family for William (until proved incorrect)

GILLS, ELIZABETH       mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 725
 
GILLS, WILLIAM       mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1876  S Quarter in HEXHAM  Volume 10B  Page 293

GILLS, THOMAS       mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1874  S Quarter in HEXHAM  Volume 10B  Page 282

GILLS, MATTHEW       mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 727
Parents

Marriages Mar 1865   
Gill    Joseph        Newcastle T    10b   55   
Scott    Jane                Newcastle T    10b   55   

1881 census -West Wylam, Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England

ref: 5101 38 31

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-4M1L?lang=en

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[mckha489]

Dob of the one who enlists in Timaru is 4 6 79. Or 4 June 1880 depending on which page you look at
 
Parents named as Joseph & Jane both deceased
When he was demobbed in 1919 he said he was 39


https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE20046307

The one in 1939 has a birth date of 01 June 1876

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William travelled back from the UK in 1931

Name   William Gill--39, Stanhope Street, Greenside, occupation Clerk
Gender   Male
Departure Age   55
Birth Date   abt 1876
[abt 1876]
Departure Date   19 Nov 1931
Departure Port   England
Ship Name   Rangitane
Shipping Line   New Zealand Shipping Company Limited

Destination Port   Wellington, New Zealand

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[hexhamlad]

All of the details on his service record information look correct except his age but men often gave the incorrect age if eager to enlist. Interesting that he was discharged as he wasn't tall enough ( 4' 9" ) and wasn't of "Sufficient physique !!!

The obituary in 1940 also looks correct, he was living with his Sister, Mrs. Elizabeth at Greenside in 1939, see 1939 Register.

It's the time he was in New Zealand that is puzzling.

[shanreagh]

All of the details on his service record information look correct except his age but men often gave the incorrect age if eager to enlist. Interesting that he was discharged as he wasn't tall enough ( 4' 9" ) and wasn't of "Sufficient physique !!!

The obituary in 1940 also looks correct, he was living with his Sister, Mrs. Elizabeth at Greenside in 1939, see 1939 Register.

It's the time he was in New Zealand that is puzzling.

With the two threads running the dates of the times he was in NZ are getting quite confused. 

Could you please let us have the dates ie BDM as you know them and then include the dates he was in NZ.  Clearly he was here in NZ to enlist, then possibly on the roll at Waimarino NZ in 1925.   

Here in NZ we have a wonderful facility called Papers Past which has searchable links to newspapers.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

I do know that around Waimarino in the 1910s/1920s the railways were big time and also forests were being felled and railed out.  My grandfather was a clerk at  timber felling firm around Oio around this time.