Robert Jones ? -1774 MP

[Matthew Clark]

Dear All ,

Sorry I'm posting here! I need your help! I'm having great difficulty finding where my 7th GG was born. I proudly have 18% Welsh DNA from the line of my GGG Rosa Louisa Jones 1852-1934. However Rosa going back 5 generations all born in Surrey until Robert Jones ? - 1774 Welsh born MP , Director of East India Company / Wine merchant. He purchased Babraham Estate in Cambridgeshire. It would be lovely to be able to know more. I went on the English end of Rootschat and they recommended I ask here.  Also Flintshire was mentioned in the family somewhere? Any help most welcome!

[GrahamSimons]

https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/member/jones-robert-1774

[QueenoftheWest]

Hi,

Can I just confirm that you traced back to Robert (d.1774) yourself using primary sources (i.e. records of baptism, marriage and burial, wills, land records), and not online trees? Some of them seem very dodgy, and I am not quite sure about the veracity...

For example, they have Thomas Jones who was buried in Chertsey in 1826 aged 87, giving him an estimated year of birth of 1739, as being baptised in London to Robert and Jane Jones, but there is also a Thomas Jones baptised in 1740 in Chertsey to father John, so why this jump from London? Where is the evidence for this as opposed to the most logical baptism being the Chertsey one?

Also, was this Thomas the one who married Sarah West in Chertsey in 1762? If so, he signed by mark, and a son of an M.P. would have almost certainly been fully literate.

Maybe I'm missing something (it is rather late!) but I just wanted to confirm.

Queenie 

[QueenoftheWest]

https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/cambs/vol6/pp19-30

A History of the County of Cambridge and the Isle of Ely: Volume 6 states that "Another sale was postponed in 1767, (fn. 85) and Babraham was eventually bought in 1770 by Robert Jones, an East India Company director. (fn. 86) Jones's only child Anne married Col. James Whorwood Adeane, and to their son, Robert Jones Adeane, Jones devised Babraham on his death in 1774. (fn. 87).

So there is no evidence he had a son Thomas in Chertsey, nor that his surname was carried forward by his descendants.

Queenie 

[Neale1961]

I am not sure how you have linked link Rosa Louisa Jones 1852-1934 with Welsh MP Robert Jones 1704-1774.

https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/member/jones-robert-1774
BIOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION

He had a daughter, but as his daughter had married J. W. Adeane without his approval, so he made his grandson Robert Jones Adeane his heir.

[hanes teulu]

The marriage (by licence) register reads
"James Whorwood Adeane, Esq, of the Parish of St Marylebone and Anne Adeane, heretofore Jones of the same Parish, a minor, by and with the consent of Robert Jones, Esq, the natural and lawful father of the said minor ..."

They married 4 Mar 1763

[hanes teulu]

There are a couple of entries on Anc* which refer to Whorwood Adeane having issue with Anne, one qualified with a ".... probably ...". Mentioned are James, died in infancy 1770 and Dorothy, bap/born 1782 who went on to marry.

Anne, born 1747, dau of Robert Jones, Esq.

The plot thickens.

[hanes teulu]

The grandson that inherited was bap 18 Nov 1763 at The Church of St Mary the Virgin, Church Road, Twickenham.

[hanes teulu]

There's a baptismal entry (Anc image) for the Parish of Chalgrove, Oxford of a

Dorothy Adeane, 20 Aug 1782 - it does not show parents.

The entry, along with half a dozen others without parents named, is qualified with a marginal note that reads
"The register of the annexed ? baptisms beginning with Rich'd Nilsden is copied from Mr Torkic's memorandum"