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Offline Ladyhawk

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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 28 February 26 00:43 GMT (UK) »

There is a child indexed in 1931 with surname Gatrall (note spelling), mother's name same.
I do not see any later records for her so possibly she was adopted out.


I wonder if this marriage entry on freeBMD might relate or may just be a coincidence
Mar 1951   I.Wight 
White  J R (not found a 1931 birth entry for a person with this name)

died 2019 Isle of Wight year of birth 1931 (see GRO indexes)



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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 28 February 26 03:40 GMT (UK) »
Interesting find ladyhawk! Correct (unusual) middle name, too.

If this is her, there are descendants that OP could get in contact with.
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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 28 February 26 11:29 GMT (UK) »
I saw that one too, but I wasn't getting anywhere with filling the gap between 1931 and 1951.

There may be children from the 1951 marriage, but White is a common name.

The possible husband may have died in 2002.

I've been looking at newspapers and other obituary sites but drawn a blank so far.

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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 28 February 26 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried the IOW County Press for death notices?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 28 February 26 17:01 GMT (UK) »
No, I hadn't, but then followed that up.  There was a death notice in January 2020.  She did have daughters.

Back to the mother Lilian Rowena Gatrall - she was with the Hollis family in 1901 as adopted daughter, spelt Gatrill.

I'm trying to find if there is any familial connection, but I'm getting very confused  :-\

Fanny Hollis (adoptive mother of Lily Rowena Gatrall) is widowed by 1901.  Her husband was Alfred Hollis.

By 1921, she has a granddaughter, born in Portsmouth, and it says her father is dead.  Her name is Lily and she was registered as Lily R, mother's maiden name Hollis.

Tracing this Lily forward, she married in 1939 and died in 1993,  She was another Lily Rowena.

Those names are too much of a coincidence.  There is some link somewhere.

Nell
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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 28 February 26 17:24 GMT (UK) »

Back to the mother Lilian Rowena Gatrall - she was with the Hollis family in 1901 as adopted daughter, spelt Gatrill.


Mentioned by Tazzie
Lily Gattrell age 15 with the Hollis family as adopted child in 1911 - Fanny has a granddaughter  her birth

HOLLIS, LILY  ROWENA     - 
GRO Reference: 1915  D Quarter in PORTSMOUTH  Volume 02B  Page 709

Added think this is her death

Lily Rowena Cuthbert age 77 Birth 6 Dec 1915
Registration Nov 1993 Isle of Wight

Edit - Apologies Nell you had already posted about this Lily I missed it  ::)

I agree with you there must be a link somewhere of course she may be the daughter of Violet and named after Lily Rowena Gatrall - the only way to find that out would be to obtain her birth certificate  an instant digital image is available

1939 there is a E M Hollis born 1932 with Lily Cuthbert (Lily R Hollis married Sep 1939  I. Wight)

No mmn (not given her full name as not investigated further)

HOLLIS, E  M   - 
GRO Reference: 1932  J Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 02B  Page 956  Occasional Copy: A

Looks as if she married as Cuthbert E M, Jun 1957 Hampstead






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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 04 March 26 10:20 GMT (UK) »

There is a child indexed in 1931 with surname Gatrall (note spelling), mother's name same.
I do not see any later records for her so possibly she was adopted out.


I wonder if this marriage entry on freeBMD might relate or may just be a coincidence
Mar 1951   I.Wight 
White  J R (not found a 1931 birth entry for a person with this name)

died 2019 Isle of Wight year of birth 1931 (see GRO indexes)

Hi Ladyhawk, would you happen to have the full date of death for JR White in 2019? By then she was JR Snook.

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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 04 March 26 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Search for Unknown Relative
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 04 March 26 18:22 GMT (UK) »

See

https://www.countypress.co.uk/notice/18150438.jennifer-snook/

Great info. Bearkat have sent MatWilliams92 a PM with some info. of possible children, marriages etc.....


Back to the mother Lilian Rowena Gatrall - she was with the Hollis family in 1901 as adopted daughter, spelt Gatrill.

Fanny Hollis (adoptive mother of Lily Rowena Gatrall) is widowed by 1901.  Her husband was Alfred Hollis.

By 1921, she has a granddaughter, born in Portsmouth, and it says her father is dead.  Her name is Lily and she was registered as Lily R, mother's maiden name Hollis.

Tracing this Lily forward, she married in 1939 and died in 1993,  She was another Lily Rowena.

Those names are too much of a coincidence.  There is some link somewhere.


death give her dob

Lily Rowena Cuthbert age 77 Birth 6 Dec 1915 Registration Nov 1993 Isle of Wight

I agree with you there must be a link somewhere of course she may be the daughter of Violet and she named her after Lily Rowena Gatrall - the only way to find that out would be to obtain her birth certificate  an instant digital image is available


For info.

I confirmed her birth entry from GRO purchased the digital image
Lily Rowena Hollis was born 6th December 1915,
her mother Violet Hollis general servant (domestic), she registered the birth
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