Celia grace Phillip's

[Milliepede]

Thanks for showing us that.

Interesting the address 18 Belmont Passage was the one in 1911 census wasn’t it so children with grandmother Harriet at that time too perhaps.

I wonder if other entries had Kings Norton or just her.

[Milliepede]

Are there electoral rolls showing that address from 1901-1911? 

Appreciate it wouldn’t show the children. 

[Bearnan]

On the 1911 they're all with Harriet, that's the census when their 'marriage' uses the years he would have been married to Sarah..

Thanks for information regarding John Phillips.

Yes and I looked school leaving age 12......the plot thickens.

[Milliepede]

Can we check that 18 Belmont Passage address in 1901 to see if Harriet is there as we haven’t found her yet

[Milliepede]

Not great at finding addresses but Edwin Phillips there in 1907 I think so could he be a family member?

[heywood]

Can we check that 18 Belmont Passage address in 1901 to see if Harriet is there as we haven’t found her yet

I think Thomas and Susannah Hough are there in 1901 2867/9/10

[Milliepede]

Yes you’re right they are. 

Edwin Phillips who was there around 1907 could still be a link.  Think he was the son of John and Louisa but could be a red herring with the name.

[heywood]

Yes at other times there is a Joseph Phillips (number 11) , Henry Alfred  Phillips (1, back 16 B P) , Samuel Phillips 2, back 16 in various years.

1874/5 - James Phillips at 18.

[teddygreen1]

Thank you for your replies . We thing the edwin phillios one is a red herring .

Harriet is correct because one of celia  children used to talk about her daughter saying she used to scare them so we know harriet etc  are right

Kath x