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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 10:39 GMT (UK) »
And another James (Southcott) Moore illeg son of Thirza born Kennerleigh, some distance away from Colyton, but could the place name have got confused. ?
1881
Piece number 2227, Folio 115, Page 9
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 10:49 GMT (UK) »
There's a likely Thirza Moore d/o James b abt 1847 living in Kennerleigh in 1851 and 1861

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Can't be this James, found him in 1921 with family and Thirza is with them
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 12:22 GMT (UK) »
What was Mary Pedrick's/Pederick's father's given name (if present on marr. cert.) - Thomas or Francis possibly?

Added - I'm looking at James Moore, born 1866, Bow living in Spreyton in '81 and Mary Pedric/Pedrick in nearby Zeal Monachorum.

Added - I'm discounting the above James. Appears to be the James, born Bow, in 1901 and 1911 Census.




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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Hi, yes she did marry Alfred. I thought it might be a brother but couldn't find any link

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Hi, yes she did marry Alfred. I thought it might be a brother but couldn't find any link

I believe Alfred's parents were Robert and Elizabeth(Webber). 1921 records he was born in the Parish of Bow, Devon. 1871/81 finds him in Bow with parents but no sign of a James/William James with mmn Webber in the census.

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Hi, yes she did marry Alfred. I thought it might be a brother but couldn't find any link

I believe Alfred's parents were Robert and Elizabeth(Webber). 1921 records he was born in the Parish of Bow, Devon. 1871/81 finds him in Bow with parents but no sign of a James/William James with mmn Webber in the census.

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I came to the same conclusion.
I think James / William James is illegitimate. Moore is quite a common surname so J /WJ may not be related to Alfred or it may go back a couple of generations and they are distant cousins. Did Robert Moore have a sister who could have given birth to J/WJ.?

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 15:54 GMT (UK) »
This young man I cannot find after 1871 census ref 2209 67 10, grandson.

Believe below is his birth.

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Re: Birth dilemma
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 25 February 26 16:07 GMT (UK) »
I think I have William (grandad) on 1861 and 1851, but doesn't seem to have a son James who fathered James 1869

Piece number 1507, Folio 74, Page 6

Piece number 1895, Folio 727, Page 15
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott