William Andrew(s)

[KylaH26]

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone could help. I'm researching William Andrew or Andrews.
He was born in 1871 in Port Glasgow, Scotland to William Andrews and Mary Hutchison. He married Phoebe Langford (registered as Febey Langford) in 1895, Dalziel, Scotland. I lose track of him in 1904 after he registered the birth of his daughter Janet. Phoebe later states that he deserted her. I cannot find him on the 1911 census in Scotland, I also cannot find a death certificate for him in Scotland and am just wondering if anyone could help.
Thanks

[KylaH26]

I cannot find any trace of him in Scotland so am wondering if he went to England.
Thanks

[softly softly]

Cannot find a suitable death on Scotlandspeople for this guy.

Name   William Andrew
Register Type   Burial
Death Date   27 Jun 1911
Burial Date   27 Jun 1911
Burial Place   North Lanarkshire, Scotland

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[Ladyhawk]

Cannot find a suitable death on Scotlandspeople for this guy.

Name   William Andrew
Register Type   Burial
Death Date   27 Jun 1911
Burial Date   27 Jun 1911
Burial Place   North Lanarkshire, Scotland

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Was just looking at the same SS 

For info from family search
29 Sep 1871 William Andrew Parents William & Mary Hutchison

His age 26 (bc1871) occ slaters labourer Parish relief October 1897,
address 89 Roman Road, wife Phoebe, children Wm 2yr 5 mths & Hugh 11 months

1901 census they are with Phoebe’s family his pob Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire born c1873,
occ slaters labourer

There's a William Andrews 38 born Paisley, Renfrewshire
but he's single and his occupation stock broker visitor Lambeth London 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW53-WSP?lang=en

If that's not his death that SS found perhaps he left the UK?

What are the names of his siblings?

William Andrew single 
Birth September 1875 Scotland
Arrival Date   1907 Manitoba, Canada
Religion   Presbyterian
Relationship to Head of Household   Brother (Alexander Andrew)
both farmers

[softly softly]

Ladyhawk, have you seen this post.

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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=896924.0;topicseen

[Ladyhawk]

I lose track of him in 1904 after he registered the birth of his daughter Janet.
Phoebe later states that he deserted her.

Is this the record you have for Phoebe listing her parents and children's names?

Phoeba Langford or Andrews age 32 Dalziel Married (Deserted)
Applications for Relief  Wife of William Andrews (33) born Port Glasgow
Admission 27 Apr 1908 Dalziel, Lanarkshire

North Lanarkshire, Scotland, Poor Law Applications and Registers, 1849-1917

Ladyhawk, have you seen this post.

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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=896924.0;topicseen

No I haven't thanks for the link as I was going to ask did Phoebe remarry - as I'd seen this entry

Phoebe Lamford amended -  don't think it reads Langford 
Marriage Place   Motherwell (witnesses Henry & Nellie Lamford)
Document Year   1914
Relationship to Soldier   Spouse
Number of Images   6
Household List (Name)   Relation to Soldier
Charles McGinty
list children's names for 1st wife & 2nd wife
UK, British Army World War I Pension Records 1914-1920

amended - surnames witnesses look to be LAMFORD

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ANDREWS
HENRY LANGFORD
M
1910
639 / 734
Dalziel

MCGINTY
HENRY LANGFORD
M
1910
639 / 734
Dalziel

Appears with Phoebe on 1911 census

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[softly softly]

3 more children by 1921

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MCGINTY
MARTHA LANGFORD
LANGFORD
F
1914
639 / 1145
Dalziel


MCGINTY
PHOEBE LANGFORD
LANGFORD
F
1912
639 / 1419
Dalziel

MCGINTY
HELEN MCCALL
LANGFORD
F
1918
639 / 561
Dalziel

[Ladyhawk]

ANDREWS
HENRY LANGFORD
M
1910
639 / 734
Dalziel

MCGINTY
HENRY LANGFORD
M
1910
639 / 734
Dalziel

Appears with Phoebe on 1911 census

3 more children by 1921

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MCGINTY
MARTHA LANGFORD
LANGFORD
F
1914
639 / 1145
Dalziel


MCGINTY
PHOEBE LANGFORD
LANGFORD
F
1912
639 / 1419
Dalziel

MCGINTY
HELEN MCCALL
LANGFORD
F
1918
639 / 561
Dalziel

For info. from Army record date of births of all children listed
Charles 10 8 03 (1st wife)
Henry 23 6 10, Phoebe 8 11 12, Dougal Andrew 26 6 0?, Janet 1 8 04,
Martha 21 8 14, Mary 24 7 99, ???via 3 10 08 (2nd wife)
All registered in Dalziel

Think Charles’ first wife Rose Ann

Parish relief record 28 Jul 1903 for
Religion RC Charles McGinty 29, miner, Rose Ann McCrae (wife) 22, Charles 2

added marriage entry

MCGINTY Charles
MCCRAE Rose Ann
1899
639 / 121 Dalziel

MCGINTY Charles
1903
639 / 1000 Dalziel