Ancestry trees as sources

[K127]

Bit of a random question, not sure if anyone can help.

I'm trying to trace a 4xgg's maiden name. On Ancestry there's about 100 trees for her (the husband/children are the same as mine) but the source of her maiden name on those trees are a mystery to me.  I click on the trees to find the source but they just link the other ancestry trees and no other actual source material. A never ending loop!

Is there any way to identify the "original" tree where it all came from? I suspect the answer is no, but asking just in case there's some clever way of finding it. This line is such a headscratcher but if someone's done all the work already it'd be amazing - I just don't want to rely on it without looking things up.   Thank you!

[rosie99]

It is very likely that there was never a source, Ancestry trees are full of fiction 

I presume you have tried your query out on here

[K127]

Thanks for your reply, Rosie. I hadn't posted it on here yet as I've only been doing family history a year and was worrying that not being able to find the source was very much a me problem and missing something obvious.

I'm looking for the parents of Susan(nah) Webber of Paignton born about 1826. Frustratingly there's no baptism that I can find, though I pick her up in various censuses. In in 1841 and 1851 she lives with Mary Fuge, her married sister's family. I believe Susan's parents are Peter & Jane Webber and am trying to work out Jane's maiden name. The many Ancestry trees has Jane's maiden name as Jane Honora Dwyer, but I'm not 100% sure why and would love to know the working out.  It's quite confusing (to me!) so I don't expect anyone to have the time to have a look, but posting it just in case anyone else is looking for the same line in future.

[martin hooper]

No it’s not you at fault. You’re doing the right thing by examining the ancestry trees and looking for the proof. Help should be on its way from this forum.

Martin

[Biggles50]

I have looked on Ancestry, FindMyPast and Family Search.

Off the wall logic gives a Baptism of a Thomas Webber in 1825 in Paignton to a William & Susannah (nee Warren) Webber.  Maybe this couple are your Susannah’s parents with her being Thomas’s Sister and with her being named after her Mother.

[oldohiohome]

In in 1841 and 1851 she lives with Mary Fuge, her married sister's family. I believe Susan's parents are Peter & Jane Webber and am trying to work out Jane's maiden name.

If you are sure Mary Fuge is her sister, can you find Mary's parents? If she married in 1837 or later, shouldn't the record tell at least her father's name, occupation, and, I think, his residence? I haven't looked at British BMD's in a while, but that's what I remember.

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

In 1841 Jane's birthplace is F? for Foreign Parts, in 1851 Mary gives her birthplace as Guernsey. I found this baptism,


Bailiwick Of Guernsey, Parish Baptisms

St Peter Port, Guernsey
Mary Ann the daughter of Peter WEBBER & Jane UNDERHILL his wife was born on the 19th & baptized on the 22nd of January 1812; had for sponsors Peter WEBBER, Jane. UNDERHILL and Ann CHINCHEN


and this marriage,

http://search.jerripediabmd.net/BMD_User/Marriage

I think the (Gsy) is for Guernsey.



I can't find Susan yet but have you noticed that she syas she is 20 in 1841, she could have been born earlier than 1826 as that DOB would make her 15 when her son Thomas was born.


Regards,
Daisy

[fiddlerslass]

Who is the James Webber age 60 born in county on the 1841 census living with the Fuge/Webber's?

[K127]

Thank you, Martin. I'm definitely learning to be more cautious with those Ancestry trees.

Old Ohio Home- that's the route I took to find the names Peter & Jane Sorry, it was all a bit complicated to explain.

DaisyPetal - Jane Underhill is where I landed at first, too! Which is why I was trying to understand the Jane Honora Dwyer name that popped up so many times because I thought I'd really gone wrong and missed something obvious. It's really thrown me but maybe Honora Dwyer's just an Ancestry red herring? Very good point too about the earlier birth date for susan. It's strange that she's the only one not baptised out of what looks like a huge family. I'll keep looking.

Fiddler'sLass - very good question! I haven't gone back on Peter's line yet as was so focussed on unpicking Jane's side, but wondered if he was Peter's brother.