John Rhodda in the 1871 census for Aberdare.

[gracol]

Ref reply no 2 ,Pheno,I requested from the GRO John Henry Rodda's birth details and have now just received them --
John Henry Rodda,born 28 Sept 1868,18 Big Row  Cwmbach Aberdare,father John Rodda,mother GRACE Rodda formerly WILLIAMS.

[osprey]

Don't think that John Henry can be yours as there is this family in 1861 mistranscribed as Rodds, census shows Rodda
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M71G-LPF?lang=en

There's a death reg for the John Henry from this census dec qtr 1861 age 1 and burial 22 Nov 1861 age 1 of Aberaman

The family is in Cornwall for the 1871 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFVX-HYN?lang=en

1881 in Camborne, Grace has remarried
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-LDSX?lang=en

[Ladyhawk]

Are you looking for the birth record of John Rhodda born c1868 Aberdare
 father of William John Rhodda?

William John Rhoda Baptism Age 12
Born 28 Jul 1903
Baptism 23 Jan 1916 Ystradyfodwg, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father John occ Stoker Mother Rachel address 38 Ystrad Road

Hopefully his marriage certificate would confirm his fathers name

Marriage
Dec 1897 Pontypridd Glamorgan 11a Page   957
John Rhodda
Records on Page (Name)
Mary Blackwell
Rachel Lovett

John his wife Rachel and daughter Mary Theresa Rhoda at same address 38 Ystrad Road in 1901, 1911
3 more children by 1911  W John, Thomas E & Samuel Lovett Rhodda and with their 3 sons same address in 1921

This looks to be his death
John Rhodda died Age 60 Sep 1928 Pontypridd Glamorganshire Volume   11a Page   514

His birth record is recorded as John Henry Rodda,and all later censuses as John Rhodda.

Where have you found John Rhodda/Rodda with middle name Henry?

Pheno found this entry

I see that John is only 3 and his mother Margaret is a widow.
His older brothers are at least 10 years older than him so dependent upon when Margaret's husband died he might not have the same father as his older siblings and be known by his natural name.

Have you checked birth and baptism for him?

1881 Piece 5301
Folio   110
Page number   17
64 High Street
Margaret Rhodda 50 Head widow
Richard Rhodda 28 Son
Mary Ann Rhodda 21 Daughter
Thomas Rhodda 24 Son
John Rhodda 13 Son Aberdare coal miner
Noah Edwards 24 boarder

1891
Piece   4424
Folio   16
Page number   27
Margaret Rhodda   66   Head
Mary Ann Edwards 36 Daughter
Noah Edwards 36 Son-in-law
Thomas Rhodda 24 Son
Thos W Rhodda 7 Grandson
Rachel Edwards 7 Granddaughter

[gracol]

Thanks osprey,that does indeed rule out the GRO record for John Henry  that I obtained,there doesn't seem to be any other GRO record that fits.
Thanks also Ladyhawk ,he is the Rhodda I am interested in.I found him in the 1891 census--
33 Llamm Street,Camarthen
Jane Williams,head,widow,60,shopkeeper,with 3 boarders,and John Rhodda,boarder,22,single,collier,born Aberdare.
Now mystified,that original 1871 census entry may hold a clue ??

[osprey]

A suggestion for the marriage reg of Richard Rodda & Margaret. In the marriages registered Merthyr Tydfil in dec qtr 1852, there is a registration for Richard Rodda vol 11a pg 449. There should be 4 names on that reference, but there are only 3.
In the same quarter, there is a Margaret Parry vol 11a pg 469 and she is one of 5 names  on that reference.
It could be that there has been a mistranscription.

Think I'd be tempted to order the one for Richard Rodda to see who he married.

[osprey]

Birth record for Margaret Ann Parry in Beulah Baptist Chapel, Mynyddislwyn

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWZC-N4M?lang=en

address noted in register as Mill Street, Caerleon.

1851 for Margaret in Aberdare with widowed mother & siblings whose place of birth should be Monmouthshire but has been transcribed as Montgomeryshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG8N-4NK?lang=en

1841 in Mynyddislwyn, Walter a blacksmith
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7QS-5W3?lang=en

possible death reg
Walter Parry 63 march qtr 1850 Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 pg 332

Burial Aberdare 25 March 1850 Walter Parry 63 Aberaman

[osprey]

The Parrys in 1861 - next door to Richard & Margaret Ann Rhoda

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWM3-R2J?lang=en

Hannah Parry married Thomas Escott sept qtr 1857

[gracol]

Belated thanks osprey for further posts,will investigate that marriage.

[gracol]

More help please.
Having difficulty finding anything about Richard Roda (Rhoda) prior to the 1861 census (as Osprey's last post.)
In that 1861 census just cannot make out his place of birth?