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Missing family Thomas George William New
« on: Monday 16 February 26 00:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am trying to find the birth and parents of Thomas George William New b. 1902, most likely New Zealand who died in Lower Hutt New Zealand in 1965.   

He had a son Frederick Wallace New b. 1929 who died in NZ in 2014.

I am trying to find the family link, to see if Thomas George William New migrated from England, maybe the Berkshire area.

I would appreciate any assistance please.   Thanking you so much.    Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 February 26 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Jan

Nothing showing up on the NZ BDM website for his birth. Died 18 March 1965 aged 63.

Could he be this one
NEW, THOMAS  GEORGE WILLIAM     mmn HEADFORD 
GRO Reference: 1901  M Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 553

A Frederick Thomas NEW married a Sarah HEADFORD Dec qtr 1900 Marylebone.

It would appear that this couple came to NZ. They had a son Christopher Charles born Paddington 1906, birth registered march qtr 1907, who died in NZ in 1976, birthdate given on Death index of 15 Dec 1906.

There was a daughter Doris Irene as well birth registered Paddington March qtr 1906. She died in NZ in 1992, with birthdate given of 8 December 1905.

Arrived before 1911 when a son Albert Edward was born here in NZ. He died in WW2.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55914411/albert-edward-new

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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 February 26 01:30 GMT (UK) »
According to 1901 census the parents were both born London, so no Berkshire connection there by the look of it.

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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 February 26 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that information, in fact the News originated from Berkshire, but many moved to Marylebone, London area.

I have a Frederick Wallace New b. 1929 who died in NZ in 2014.   Maybe I have the wrong parents then.   Frederick Wallace New married June McKenzie b. 1931 and she died in 2019 in NZ.

I really need to find the correct family line with a DNA match that I have with one of the descendants of Frederick Wallace New.

Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir


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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 February 26 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Birth
1929/3974   New    Frederick Wallace    Selina Ella May   Thomas George William

Death
2014/27772   New    Frederick Wallace    9 January 1929

1923/4990   Selena Ella May    Copeland    Thomas George William    New

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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 February 26 02:23 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, that's great, confirms the family line.    I need to go further back now.
So Frederick Wallace New was born some years after their arrival in New Zealand, as the first three children born 1906, and 1911.   Big gap to 1929.
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir

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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 February 26 02:24 GMT (UK) »
Images of TGW New's baptism as well as those of his sister and brother, plus their parents marriage are on Ancestry.

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Re: Missing family Thomas George William New
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 February 26 02:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much, will get back on to Ancestry.  Have you been able to find any migration records for Thomas GW New and his wife Sarah Headford?
Jan
New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey, Bosley, Belcher- Newbury Berkshire
Haynes/Haines - Much Birch Herefordshire, Monmouth Wales
Kearn/Watkins- Llanllwchaiarn/Newtown, Wales, Tyberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Ellison - Manchester/Portsmouth Hampshir