Address in Paisley 1891 Census

[Pennines]

On the 1891 Census there is a Reuben H. Howarth (aged 47) - born in England, living with his family at what looks like, 'Gleniffer Lodge' in Paisley.

However, upon investigating Gleniffer Lodge - I find it appears to have been a Masonic Hall at that time. A newspaper report confirms Reuben was there in 1884 ( he returns to Lancashire by 1901).

Is it possible that he could have been renting rooms (14 of them apparantly!) in a Masonic Lodge? I am just puzzled by that address and would appreciate someone else's thoughts.

[RJ_Paton]

What street name do you have ?

In 1900 Gleniffer Lodge is the home of George Burrell, shipowner.

The masonic Lodge also listed as Gleniffer Lodge appears to be homeless as they met in different halls each year.

Added: 68 Maxellton Road listed as Hall for the Masonic Lodge and as far as I know was never a private dwelling.

[RJ_Paton]

There was a seperate dwelling in Meikleriggs called "Gleniffer Lodge" Reuben Howarth a manager at Coats Mills was recorded as living there around 1886 to 1895.

[Pennines]

Oh thank you SO very much for this information. Reuben was indeed a Manager of a Mill.

I had simply seen the Census address as Gleniffer Lodge - in the Abbey district of Paisley, on the census record. Hence, when I poked my nose into Glennifer Lodge - the result came up as a Masonic Lodge.

How odd though - having 2 buildings with the same name.,

I am very grateful for your help

[RJ_Paton]

How odd though - having 2 buildings with the same name.,

Technically there was only 1 dwelling named Gleniffer Lodge - the Masonic Lodge was known as Lodge Gleniffer with their lodge number attached. I suspect that it was only later when they moved into their permanent Hall in Maxwellton Road that they were listed as Gleniffer Lodge.

I don't know if "your" Gleniffer Lodge is the same premises which is later listed in Corsebar Road meikleriggs as Gleniffer Home - a hospital for the treatment of Incurable Diseases. but both were purchased by Coats.

[Pennines]

Now I see! -- the wonderful image of the Masonic Lodge, which I initially found on Instant Street View, does indeed say Lodge Glennifer, followed by a number - despite me having searched for 'Glennifer Lodge'.

The only other building to appear was a Hotel with the name Glennifer.

I wouldn't make a detective would I. !!

Thank you for the additional information.

[Forfarian]

In 1900 Gleniffer Lodge is the home of George Burrell, shipowner.

Elder brother of Sir William Burrell of the Burrell Collection.

[Pennines]

Thank you, Forfarian for that information. How very interesting.