James Terry. B1849 in Brightling, Sussex. GRO birth record.

[rosie99]

Was his first marriage at Portslade to Esther Ellen Scrase in 1876, that states he is 26 and his father is George Terry .
I have just noticed that he married Jane E Butcher -marriage indexed as Terrey

The 1881 gives his age as 35
The 1888 marriage he is 39

[Clarkey500]

Back to the drawing board (from tackling this at a different angle):

1842 Deaths (same volume and page, suggesting same or similar time): Lucy (aged 66) and William (aged 73).
1842 Birth - Philliss Elizabeth (MMN Noakes)
1843 Marriage - Frances Terry
1845 Birth - Caroline (MMN Noakes)
1846 Birth - John (No mother's maiden name - so it would probably be Terry)
1848 Death - John (aged 32)
1849 Marriage - Lucy
1852 Marriage - William
1854 Birth - James Thomas (No mother's maiden name)
1855 Marriage - Charlotte

The John born in 1846 is on later census records.

The 1842 burials of William (6th March) and Lucy (15th March) are in Bexhill
1848 burial of John is in Bexhill (though his age is listed as 22).

Marriages:
Frances Terry (daughter of William Terry) marries William Smith in Bexhill in 1843
Lucy Terry (daughter of William Terry) marries James Cruttenden in Bexhill in 1849
William Terry (carman of Camberwell (son of William Terry) marries Elizabeth Saxby in Battle in 1852

Elizabeth Saxby doesn't seem to have an illegitimate son that could have taken the Terry surname.

I'd say that Terry is not that common a name in the Battle Registration District other than a family in Bexhill.

I'd also agree that the marriage certificate to Jane Butcher would be useful.

I'd also suggest using DNA if you can.

[fiddlerslass]

There's an older Thomas Terry in the 1841 census at Arundel who is a carpenter. Perhaps he is the grandfather. Might be worth looking into if he had any children who could be parent to James?

[0ctavia]

This is not the right James Terry I'm afraid.

Charlotte, his mother dies in 1873 and James Thomas Terry marries later on and can be found on census records clashing with your one.

OK. Noted. I won't go down that track then!

[0ctavia]

Was his first marriage at Portslade to Esther Ellen Scrase in 1876, that states he is 26 and his father is George Terry .
I have just noticed that he married Jane E Butcher -marriage indexed as Terrey

The 1881 gives his age as 35
The 1888 marriage he is 39

Yes, his age in the 1881 census does not match the next two census records nor his second marriage - hence me thinking the 1881 details could be incorrect.

[0ctavia]

Notes:
 there is a James Thomas Terry reg 1854 at Battle. he is illegitimate mother Charlotte.

I went to the www.gro.gov.uk website for my information but that doesn't give me first name details of mother. Where did you go to get the Charlotte info please?

[0ctavia]

Back to the drawing board (from tackling this at a different angle):

1842 Deaths (same volume and page, suggesting same or similar time): Lucy (aged 66) and William (aged 73).
1842 Birth - Philliss Elizabeth (MMN Noakes)
1843 Marriage - Frances Terry
1845 Birth - Caroline (MMN Noakes)
1846 Birth - John (No mother's maiden name - so it would probably be Terry)
1848 Death - John (aged 32)
1849 Marriage - Lucy
1852 Marriage - William
1854 Birth - James Thomas (No mother's maiden name)
1855 Marriage - Charlotte

The John born in 1846 is on later census records.

The 1842 burials of William (6th March) and Lucy (15th March) are in Bexhill
1848 burial of John is in Bexhill (though his age is listed as 22).

Marriages:
Frances Terry (daughter of William Terry) marries William Smith in Bexhill in 1843
Lucy Terry (daughter of William Terry) marries James Cruttenden in Bexhill in 1849
William Terry (carman of Camberwell (son of William Terry) marries Elizabeth Saxby in Battle in 1852

Elizabeth Saxby doesn't seem to have an illegitimate son that could have taken the Terry surname.

I'd say that Terry is not that common a name in the Battle Registration District other than a family in Bexhill.

I'd also agree that the marriage certificate to Jane Butcher would be useful.

I'd also suggest using DNA if you can.

Thank you for your comments. Where did you go to get all the info. The GRO site seems to only have search facilities for birth and death, unless I'm in the wrong part of the website???

I have done a DNA test via Ancestry - is that what you mean?

[0ctavia]

There's an older Thomas Terry in the 1841 census at Arundel who is a carpenter. Perhaps he is the grandfather. Might be worth looking into if he had any children who could be parent to James?

Yes, thank you. I will follow this up and let you know if anything comes from it :-)

[amondg]

Octavia reply 14

I got the mother's name from the baptism record at Bexhill.
Born 16 August 1854 bap. 8 October 1854 mother Charlotte Terry - spinster