James Terry. B1849 in Brightling, Sussex. GRO birth record.

[0ctavia]

Hello 

James Terry was born in 1849 in Brightling, East Sussex. I get this information from the 1891 & 1901 census records. The 1881 census records show him as being born in 1846 but still in Brightling. I am inclined to think that the 1849 year of birth is correct though because his marriage certificate from his second marriage in 1888 states his age as 39 indicating that 1849 is indeed the correct year of birth.

From the marriage certificate I also see that his father is a deceased carpenter named Thomas Terry. At the moment I know nothing about his mother.

I am wanting to find James GRO birth record to see if there was an indication of his mother's maiden name, but I cannot find anything! I have tried different search options such as searching quite a few years before and after 1849. I have put James as his first forename. I have put nothing in as the forename and put James as his second forename. I have selected both exact matches, phonetically similar variations, and similar sounding variations for his surname. Nothing I try produces any births in the vicinity of Brightling.

I'd appreciate any comments from anyone if they have ideas on the way forward.

Thank you for reading.

[amondg]

How old did he say he was on the first marriage to Jane Ellen Butcher 1876 reg. Brighton ?

[0ctavia]

I don’t know. I only have details from the Civil Marriage Registration Index which doesn’t give his age.

[Clarkey500]

In case any of this helps link to the family:

Brightling would have been in the Battle registration district.

There are 2 Terrys that I can find within the BMD indexes for Battle between 1847 and 1850:
John Terry - died Sept Quarter 1848 - aged 32
Lucy Terry - married March Quarter 1849

[amondg]

I was curious who he named as his father on the first marriage as well as his age.

You may have to purchase the certificate to see if he fibbed.

Notes:
 there is a James Thomas Terry reg 1854 at Battle. he is illegitimate mother Charlotte. 

[0ctavia]

In case any of this helps link to the family:

Brightling would have been in the Battle registration district.

There are 2 Terrys that I can find within the BMD indexes for Battle between 1847 and 1850:
John Terry - died Sept Quarter 1848 - aged 32
Lucy Terry - married March Quarter 1849

Thank you. Sadly neither of those two fit the bill. Tis a puzzle indeed!

[0ctavia]

I was curious who he named as his father on the first marriage as well as his age.

You may have to purchase the certificate to see if he fibbed.

Notes:
 there is a James Thomas Terry reg 1854 at Battle. he is illegitimate mother Charlotte.

Mmm. I don’t think l went back quite that far. Thanks for the info, and yes, maybe I will purchase the certificate since he is a direct ancestor of mine 

[Clarkey500]

Expanding this further 1842-1855:

1842 Deaths (same volume and page, suggesting same or similar time): Lucy (aged 66) and William (aged 73).
1842 Birth - Philliss Elizabeth (MMN Noakes)
1843 Marriage - Frances Terry
1845 Birth - Caroline (MMN Noakes)
1846 Birth - John (No mother's maiden name - so it would probably be Terry)
1848 Death - John (aged 32)
1849 Marriage - Lucy
1851 Birth - Ellen
1852 Marriage - William
1854 Birth - James Thomas (No mother's maiden name)
1855 Marriage - Charlotte

The 1854 James is most likely the son of Charlotte that was baptised in Bexhill in 1854.
Charlotte may well have then married the following year to James Christian. It is possible that James may be recorded on census records with his step father's name.

1861 Census:
James Christian, 36, Head, Brewer's Servant
Charlotte Christian, 27, Wife
James Christian, 6, Son, Scholar
Lucy Christian, 4, Daughter, Scholar
Nathaniel Christian, 3, Son, Scholar
George Christian, 6 Months, Son

I'd suggest this may be an interesting avenue of research.

[Clarkey500]

This is not the right James Terry I'm afraid.

Charlotte, his mother dies in 1873 and James Thomas Terry marries later on and can be found on census records clashing with your one.