Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s

[*Sandra*]

Wonder if this was St Josephs Home for Girls ?

St. Joseph’s Home for Girls, at Sanford Avenue and Kissena Boulevard, was originally a Catholic school for girls, later an orphanage, and then a home for retired nuns. It burned down in the early 1960s

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30484128@N03/47187662921/

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Sandra

[dobfarm]

It does seem like Janet I Brown wanted her daughter out of her daily life, she was in Canada 1900 marrying William Caldwell and may have met William on one of her passages across the Atlantic.

Info keeps turning up - So! ............................... Who knows what turns up next. ? 

[ValJJJ]

Thanks Sandra.

Also out of interest, I found the instructions to enumerators for the 1900 USA census.  I wondered if they left schedules for householders to fill up, then copied them, or interviewed direct.  The latter, it would seem.  The census was for June 1st but they had up to the 15th to collect all the info.  Perhaps the public were alerted in advance of  taking note of where they were on the 1st.

https://www2.census.gov/prod2/decennial/documents/1900InstructionstoEnumerators.pdf

[dobfarm]

There's a saying with horse racing gamblers ' follow the money ' - I would imagine on ancestry that term could mean, follow where the income, substances comes from by earning a living or income from something.  Janet Isobel Brown was a Millinery (though she could have income from other sources) but what supported her in Canada, and  Ivy in New York both places  June 1900.

As for how Ivy travelled to the USA pre - 1900?  you may never know, but you do know she did, from  schooling years New York 1900 to later in Chicago (advise putting Ivy on the back burner for now) but concentrate on Janet in Canada may reveal more answers.

[ValJJJ]

Good idea about following the money.

Janet was in Chicago business directories for 1897, 98, 99. In partnership with Helen Connor.

1900 marriage, in 1901 census in UK.

The next info is in a 1903 newspaper about Caldwell & Anderson opening up a shop in South Bend, Indiana. Her brother was probably still in South Bend.

[*Sandra*]

The next info is in a 1903 newspaper about Caldwell & Anderson opening up a shop in South Bend, Indiana. Her brother was probably still in South Bend.

To clarify - John Miller Brown was made Deputy County Auditor in 1897 running thru to 1903 in South Bend.   Shortly after leaving that position, his obit tells us he went to Toledo before moving to Buffalo New York where he stayed until he passed in 1918. John sold his Park Avenue property in Portage, St Joseph, Indiana in October 1905.

John Miller Brown appears in 45 ancestry trees now 

Have you tried to make any contact with St Josephs Convent ? This might show how long Ivey Browne was there, if the records still exist or they may be able to advise where to find them....

Sandra

[dobfarm]

Buffalo, New York state, is near the USA/Canadian border-  I wonder other Brown relatives from England moved to the USA or if John Miller Brown had in law connections if he ever married over there.

[*Sandra*]

Its all in the other long thread dobfarm, sadly no other Brown relatives in Canada or the USA.
John Miller Brown was married in Michigan 1883 (Anna B Herring) to a lady from the USA.
John Miller Brown and his USA family all documented in the other thread.

Sandra

[dobfarm]

Thanks Sandra,

I'll read the other thread when time permits, what intrigues me is why?  Janet Isabel Brown married William Caldwell in Canada, then left her young daughter age 8 in a school in New York 1900 and then sounds like the couple honeymooned in England straight after the marriage.

 Then 4 years later divorced her husband for not supporting his wife who sounded like she had a bob or two in her own right and his step daughter who's mother Janet, his wife did not give much attention too her daughter anyway.

Sounds like it was all about money with Janet Isabel Brown