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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #45 on: Sunday 22 February 26 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Good find -  just behind you  :)

I don't think that Ivy will be found on any passenger list, I think she was a young infant not recorded.

Sandra

Although by end March 1893 she would have been 2 years old.  So not a babe in arms.
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 22 February 26 13:35 GMT (UK) »

Where did Jane/Janet Brown/Caldwell keep nipping off to on her milliner trips  :) :) ??

Ivey Browne - March 1892 England - aged 8 years -
Home in 1900   Queens Ward 3, Queens, New York
Ward of City   3
Street   Cor Sanford & Camaco Avenue
House Number   336
Sheet Number   21
Institution   St Josephs Convent (Lines 1-54 Indus)
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation   377
Family Number   406
Relation to Head of House   Student - Marital Status   Single
Father's Birthplace   England - Mother's Birthplace   England
Occupation   Student.

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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 22 February 26 13:58 GMT (UK) »

Where did Jane/Janet Brown/Caldwell keep nipping off to on her milliner trips  :) :) ??

Ivey Browne - March 1892 England - aged 8 years -
Home in 1900   Queens Ward 3, Queens, New York
Ward of City   3
Street   Cor Sanford & Camaco Avenue
House Number   336
Sheet Number   21
Institution   St Josephs Convent (Lines 1-54 Indus)
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation   377
Family Number   406
Relation to Head of House   Student - Marital Status   Single
Father's Birthplace   England - Mother's Birthplace   England
Occupation   Student.

If you have ancestry - this link..........

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u8n/

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Good find Sandra

I think that's Ivy - her birth March month is right and as the USA 1900 census was taken in June 1900 1 year out on the enumerators calculations base on her age given by the school is acceptable.

Keeps narrowing the gap 1891 to 1900
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 22 February 26 14:04 GMT (UK) »
Oh well found, and as dobfarm says the year of birth out by one year is OK if calculation by the enumerator. 

Note that there is no mention of her ability to read, write or speak English, or how many months education (others on the page have 10).  Wonder why this wasn't filled in?


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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 22 February 26 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Well done, Sandra 🙂
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 22 February 26 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Oh well found, and as dobfarm says the year of birth out by one year is OK if calculation by the enumerator. 

Note that there is no mention of her ability to read, write or speak English, or how many months education (others on the page have 10).  Wonder why this wasn't filled in?

Doesn’t it state 10 months for Ivey too? All the ones who don’t have ‘yes’ to those skills are the younger ones - perhaps just a general assessment.
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #51 on: Sunday 22 February 26 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Yes you're right.  And we know our Ivy had an academic record later on.

Wondering if there are some admission records for this place, to see if it's possibly to tie in this Ivey with Janet Brown.
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 22 February 26 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Oh well found, and as dobfarm says the year of birth out by one year is OK if calculation by the enumerator. 

Note that there is no mention of her ability to read, write or speak English, or how many months education (others on the page have 10).  Wonder why this wasn't filled in?

If you notice the ages of the children of the block of spaces left empty, were all infant or juniors, thus may be that teacher wasn't available to answer the enumerator. You know Ivy would be able to speak English.
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 22 February 26 18:49 GMT (UK) »


Maybe try "snail mail" to St Josephs Convent.  404 W 127th St, New York, NY 10027   (Queens. New York) They may have old records.

Sandra

BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

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