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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 21 February 26 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps this was Elizabeth King after the 1891 census ?????

Elizabeth King [Elizabeth Worsfold]
Marriage Place   Canning Town, Holy Trinity, Barking Road, Essex, England
Father    Richard Worsfold
Spouse    William Henry Gray

Marriage Date   10 Sep 1894
Marriage Place   Canning Town, Holy Trinity, Barking Road, Essex

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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 21 February 26 19:25 GMT (UK) »
Food for thought..............

Maybe Elizabeth reverted to her maiden name by 1901 census Great Stanmore. Hendon. Middlesex.

Eliza Worsfold   64   Head. Living on own means.
Isabella Westherly 14 Servant.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X96S-K17?lang=en

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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 21 February 26 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra. I'd got as far as finding an Elizabeth Mayne marrying a Nicholas King or A N Other (from the marriage index) but not yet pursued it to see if she married King or the other one.  And if she did marry King, whether she was the right person.


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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 22 February 26 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra. I'd got as far as finding an Elizabeth Mayne marrying a Nicholas King or A N Other (from the marriage index) but not yet pursued it to see if she married King or the other one.  And if she did marry King, whether she was the right person.

If that is a 1873 marriage you refer to, this might help discount Elizabeth Mayne who married David George at St Saviours Church Croydon on 29 Nov 1873.

Elizabeth Magne (wrong transcription - should be Mayne)
Record Type   Marriage   29 Nov 1873
Marriage Place   Holy Saviour Church, Surrey.
Parish as it Appears   Croydon
Father    James Magne (Mayne)
Spouse    David George

1891 census Lewisham Sydenham Hill, Lewisham, London.

David George 43   Head
Elizabeth George   45   Wife
Mary E George 15   Daughter
Alice E George 12   Daughter
Alfred J George 12   Son
Kate C George 9   Daughter
Robert W George 9   Son

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Elizabeth George - 1845 - 1914  (aged 69 years)
Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun   Croydon, Surrey.
Death Date   Jun 1914    Surrey.
Volume   2a Page   335

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BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 22 February 26 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking - so she married A N Other!
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 22 February 26 11:39 GMT (UK) »
I had found the same Elizabeth King as Sandra but did not see that marriage to William Henry Gray.
In 1891, Elizabeth states she is married but that might have been an error in recording.

1871 530/40/18
Elizabeth King b 1836 Nutfield, Surrey (Metfield on one site) - with Henry and four children.

1881 1712/41/24
Elizabeth King widow b 1836, Redhill, Surrey with daughter Agnes

1891 1034\68
Elizabeth King b 1836 Redhill Hill with Janet Thompson

Further possibilities

1894 marriage to William Henry Gray

1901 585/32/12

Elizabeth Gray, widow b 1836, Nutfield, Surrey - caretaker of house with Jessie Gregory, 16 yrs servant
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 22 February 26 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Good find -  just behind you  :)

1901 585/32/12

Elizabeth Gray, widow b 1836, Nutfield, Surrey - caretaker of house with Jessie Gregory, 16 yrs servant.

I don't think that Ivy will be found on any passenger list, I think she was a young infant not recorded.

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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 22 February 26 11:51 GMT (UK) »
And Elizabeth King may have just been a temporary nurse in need of employment.
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Re: Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 22 February 26 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra and Heywood.
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