Janet and Ivy BROWN (or THOMPSON) leaving the UK for N. America? 1890s

[ValJJJ]

Thanks for the fresh set of eyes although I think Rootschatters (Jonwarm?) did scrutinise this document a good while ago.

This record is an arrivals document.

I’ve just found on FindMyPast another passenger record that’s for departures that lists her as Janet I Brown and gives her ticket number. Only her travelling on that ticket.

FindMyPast state the record is from the National Archives, Series title Board Of Trade: Commercial And Statistical Department And Successors: Outwards Passenger Lists
Destination port New York
Series BT 27
Record set: Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960

She is transcribed as Janet J Brown, spin[ster]. 

[ValJJJ]

Like other families emigrating, Janet could have travelled first, then once settled, sent for Ivy, so she may have travelled in 1893 but on a later boat?  Time to trawl more 1893 passenger lists!

[dobfarm]

In both passenger records she is in the 2nd class cabin list.

Well 2nd Class would fitting  a middle class shop business owner like millinery and way above steerage class more fitting working class.

Liz King could be the important? if she was a nanny nurse or a temp wet nurse? and its seems to be transforming with the latest info Janet travelled to America on her own

[ValJJJ]

I don’t think ‘nanny’ was a named occupation back then. I tried searching on the keyword nanny and got a lot of entries for the surname Nanny/ie and some where Nanny was part of an address.

If I’m reading Elizabeth King’s age correctly as 55 and it was recorded correctly, is a wet nurse even possible? Unless wet nurse extends to using bottled milk.

Over at the handwriting forum, the jury is still out on the type of nurse.

[dobfarm]

The next thing to do is try finding Elizabeth King in the UK 1901 census or USA 1900 census, bearing in mind Ivy got to the USA with someone 1893 to 1900's, unless Janet came back for her by check shipping lists and its could be assumed Janet was only visiting her brother in 1893 or was doing a reconnaissance for living there around Chicago in her future.

[ValJJJ]

Good idea to look for Janet returning to the UK after a recce, although her immigration passenger record stated ‘prolonged sojourn’. That doesn’t rule out returning for a short spell so all is possible.

I haven’t had much success yet with Elizabeth King (nee ?) born Red Hill (which is near Nutfield and Reigate).

[*Sandra*]

Elizabeth Worsfold (father Richard) married Henry King 1855

Elizabeth Worsfold - 1835 - Marriage Age   20
Record Type   Marriage 29 Oct 1855
Marriage Place   Woodbridge St Mary, Suffolk.
Parish as it Appears   Woodbridge
Father    Richard Worsfold
Spouse    Henry King.

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[*Sandra*]

1871 St George in the East. London

Henry King 39 Head. Builder.
Elizabeth King   35   Wife
Caroline King 14 Daughter  (passed 1915)
Henry King 13 Son
Agnes King 9 Daughter (passed 1945)
Harriet King 5 Daughter

A possible death  1872 for Henry King.

Henry King 1831 - aged 41 years  - passed 1872
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place   St George in the East, London
Death Date   Dec 1872   London.
Volume   1c Page   256

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[*Sandra*]

1881 census 6 Spire Terrace Peter St. West Ham

Elizabeth King   45   Head
Agnes King 20 Daughter.

Agnes marries Thomas Carter 9 March 1886 Holy Trinity Canning Town.

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