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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 February 26 12:56 GMT (UK) »
That Shropshire death aged 100 is wrong.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7579/records/1021921303

Edit: as that Kathleen was nee May, wife of a Charles https://findagrave.com/memorial/16767482/kathleen-rodgers and appears with same DOB as death 17 Dec 1905 on 1939 Register in Woking, Surrey with him.

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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 February 26 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Jon-ni
Is there any reason that you keep giving links to Ancestry website subscription page?
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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 February 26 13:15 GMT (UK) »
I'll put the www. in, without it works for me, has that sorted?

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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 February 26 14:06 GMT (UK) »
It works for me but that is because I have a subscription. I don’t think it works otherwise.
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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 February 26 14:21 GMT (UK) »

I don’t think it works otherwise.

Quite right, heywood. All I see (without an Ancestry subscription) is the Join Subscription page.

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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 February 26 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Firstly thank you so much for everyone’s input. I think the following details are those that people have asked to be clarified, but apologies if I haven’t answered all questions.

1931 Birth registration details for Robert Frederick John Rodgers
Address listed as 73 York Street;
Birth registered by Father Corporal RF Rodgers - Yorkshire Regiment address same: 73 York Street.
Deducing born Northern Ireland - York Street in Derry near Ebrington Barracks.

1929 Marriage certificate details: Married in Roman Catholic Church at Long Tower.
Robert F Rodgers:   No mention of Regiment, only occupation: Soldier and Father John Rodgers Labourer.
Kathleen Gallagher:   Factory Worker living at 10 Long Tower Street.
Witnesses:      George Arthur McDonald and Annie Friel.

Other information that has been found and I have actually verified as much as I can is:
Robert Frederick Rodgers parents were John Rodgers and Ann Rodgers, formerly Lockwood. Father Steel Furnaceman, living in Bingley Street, Sheffield.
They would have appeared to have separated between 1901 and 1911. Annie can be found as a boarder with a year old daughter Edith Helen, Walter is 19 and a boarder, John aged 44 is also a boarder. All at different addresses.

My father RFJ Rodgers did remarry in Birmingham - Joan May and his death was registered in King’s Lynn, Apr 2003.
Robert Frederick Rodgers [Grandfather] was not Irish.

The rationale for looking at Irish records is deducing that Kathleen was Irish, perhaps born in Derry since she was registered on the marriage certificate at 10 Long Tower Street.

However if Kathleen and Catherine Gallagher mentioned in the 1911 Census in Wexflyer's reply are the same what are the chances of finding out information on an adopted child's parents.  :(

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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 February 26 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Welcome BelfastBoy. Your 1st reply has been slow to show up (after being held up because you are new), but now your replies will appear in real time.
Thanks for supplying the extra birth and marriage detail which confirms that information supplied in reply #5 was correct.

Have you confirmed the following death.

Deaths Jun 1965 
RODGERS    ROBERT F         Age 62                      Birmingham    9c       333


I assume that Robert and Catherine were still in Ireland in 1939, as I cannot find them in the 1939 Register in England.

Finding a death for Catherine/ Kathleen would be useful as it might give us a more accurate date of birth to help trace her.
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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 February 26 23:48 GMT (UK) »
I think the 1911 census for Catherine Gallagher living in Long Tower Street is probably the correct one. Even though she was adopted, she still seems to have retained her surname. She may be able to be found.
Often ‘Adopted’ children were orphaned or illegitimate children of relatives.
Have your searched here for a birth record?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie


Looking at other people in that same census household -----
Lizzie Bradley (42) married Bernard Doherty (32) in Derry in 1909
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10035/5650123.pdf

Did Catherine belong to Lizzie or another member of the Bradley family?

The Bradleys seem to be children of Hugh Bradley (a carpenter) and Sarah Hartin / Harkin

Re-posting 1911 census link
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__2_/Long_Tower_Street/602591/

1901 census for the Bradley family
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__2_Urban__South_Ward/Gordon_Place/1536112/


Sarah Bradley age 70, died in 1908
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1908/05505/4542303.pdf

Hugh Bradley had died in 1888
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06160/4760371.pdf



Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Gallagher - Rodgers
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 11 February 26 01:02 GMT (UK) »
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I assume that Robert and Catherine were still in Ireland in 1939, as I cannot find them in the 1939 Register in England.
She should, but if Robert was in the Army still, he would not appear.

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Deducing born Northern Ireland - York Street in Derry near Ebrington Barracks
yes - have to be registered in District of birth.