Gallagher - Rodgers

[BelfastBoy56]

Gallagher - Rodgers

I am looking for info about my grandparents, birth, baptism and/or death dates  .

Only info I do have is as follows:

My Father’s birth certificate:
Name: Robert Frederick John Rodgers born 21 Jul 1931
Father: Robert Frederick Rodgers
Mother: Kathleen Rodgers formerly Gallagher.

Grandparents marriage certificate: 7 Dec 1929 Long Tower Church, Derry
Robert Frederick Rodgers   Full   Father: John Rodgers
Kathleen Gallagher      Full   Father: Unknown

1929 has Robert listed at Ebrington Barracks, Londonderry.
1930 has Robert and Kathleen listed at Pontefract Barracks, Yorkshire.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

[Wexflyer]

You neglected to tell us the occupations on the birth and marriage registrations, and also religions. Important information.

Also, have you found them on any census returns?

[Wexflyer]

Long Tower Church in Derry City is Catholic.

[Wexflyer]

A possibility for OP's Kathleen Gallagher is the Catherine Gallagher, age 6, an adopted  child, living in Long Tower St. Derry, on the 1911 census.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__2_/Long_Tower_Street/602591/

[Jon_ni]

Difficult. 

My Father’s birth certificate:
Name: Robert Frederick John Rodgers born 21 Jul 1931
Father: Robert Frederick Rodgers Mother: Kathleen Rodgers formerly Gallagher.

1930 has Robert and Kathleen listed at Pontefract Barracks, Yorkshire.

With a presumed year typo, doesn't make sense, there is no birth registration in England 1930/31 in civil or army births. If he was born N.I. then it might give his father's current address as Pontefract Barracks. Three addresses are asked for: Place of birth, Dwelling-place of father, and Residence of informant.
Where was he born 1931, who registered the birth & where? What was Kathleen's residence on the 1929 marriage cert and John Rodger's occupation? Regiment, if mentioned on marriage. Was Robert Frederick Rodgers the soldier Irish?
As you are BelfastBoy presume they perhaps died there / in N.I & not England?

[Neale1961]

We are missing some details from the births and marriages posted at the start by Belfast Boy.

However, in the meanwhile there is a possible ….

Robert Frederick Rodgers baptised 11 March 1903 in Pitsmoor Sheffield
Son of John (steel melter ) and Ann (nee Lockwood).
Parents married in 1888

Birth Rego
RODGERS, ROBERT  FREDERICK               mother - LOCKWOOD 
GRO Reference: 1903  J Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 615


In 1921 census Robert Frederick is a private in Barracks at Pembroke Dock
York and Lancaster Regiment, 1st battalion

1930 electoral rolls has Robert Frederick and Kathleen Rodgers in barracks at Pontefract.

1954 through to 1965 electoral rolls Selly Oak Birmingham has Robert F and Catherine Rodgers. Runcorn Road - Fir Ave, and later Chestnut Rd.
Robert F J Rodgers appears with them in some instances.

Robert F Rodgers (born 1903) died in Birmingham in 1965.



Before we can move forward, it is necessary to know ALL the detail from the birth and marriage certificates mentioned in the opening post, otherwise we might be looking at the wrong people.

[Jon_ni]

Certainly helps, is his first post.
Well Robert's Frederick's 1903 Sheffield birth, and baptism 11 Mar 1903 Christ Church, Pitsmoor (son of John a Steel-melter & Ann of 161 Woodside Lane) plus 1965 Birmingham death are suggested records by Ancestry from both the 1921 and the 1930 Pontefract Electoral Roll.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/63151/records/35271185
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1921/RG15/27374/0031/03
'A' Company, 1st Battalion, York & Lancaster Regiment, Llanion Barracks, Pembroke Dock
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15.6&lat=51.69771&lon=-4.93537&layers=6&right=osm

Mother nee LOCKWOOD, married Sheffield Q3 1888 [1 July Wicker Parish Church, Sheffield].
1901 census + marriage, birth, baptism etc. just don't see 1911.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7814/records/27865216

The son looks to have married in Birmingham too: RODGERS Robert F J & MAY Joan Q3 Sep 1962  Birmingham 9c 1001.

A Kathleen Rodgers died Birmingham 6th July 1999 aged 87 (DOB 15 Oct 1911) but can eliminate that as was full age (21 or more) when married.
Another died 21 Nov 2006 Shropshire born 1905 with Probate Birmingham (Findmypast). Or did she return to Derry/Belfast?

... asking about the Rodgers side under Ireland seems strange though.

EDIT: Neale must have been editing his post when I replied as the apparent duplication that now appears was not there previously, only the 1921 census and 1930 electoral roll were mentioned.

[Neale1961]

Robert Frederick John Rodgers born 21 Jul 1931

DEATH
Robert Frederick John Gallagher
Death Age   71
Birth Date   21 Jul. 1931
Registration Date   Apr. 2003
Registration District   Kings Lynn
   Norfolk

[heywood]

All this hard work from you.
I do hope that BelfastBoy56 comes back to help and clarify.