NSW Mental Institutions

[clancam37]

I'm searching for a Rose Mary TYRIE nee Jones born about 1874 a patient in Mental Home in NSW or possibly Queensland before 1921.
Can anyone please assist  me.
Regards
clancam37

[sparrett]

What was her mother's name?
Obviously her mother was in an asylum at the time of the child's birth.

We really need more information to help.
Where and to whom did she marry?

Sue

[judb]

What do you need?

I see:

Rose Mary Jones b 1878, registered Lambeth, Uk

Marriage:
27 Jul. 1899, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Rose Mary Jones, 20, spinster, no occ shown, residence: Well Bank (possibly Will Bank)
Charles Cambell Baxter Tyrie, 28, bachelor, surgeon, residence: Kinnaid House, Keighly
Father   Joseph Jones, marine engineer, deceased
Spouse Father   Charles Tyrie, gentleman, deceased
Register Type   Parish Register

1901 Census
Both at Victoria St,  Keighly, with baby 7 months - Charles C S Tyrie
His occupation Physician

1906 Electoral Roll (Australia)
both at Church St, Boonah - surname recorded as "Baxter-Tyrie". 
His occ: medical practitioner, hers: domestic duties

1909
both at Abbot St, Cairns. listed under "Tryrie" and both have Baxter listed as a forename. 
His occ: medical practitioner

Child's birth:
Caroline Dorothy Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Birth Date   5 Jun. 1908
Queensland, Australia
Father   Charles Campbell Baxter-Tyrie
Mother   Rosemary Jones
Page number   1442 #B017803

Not the same people
1921
Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie

There is this enigmatic entry in Arrivals
Name   Baxter Tyrie
Arrival Age   7
Birth Date   abt 1907
Port of Departure   Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date   12 Jul. 1914
Port of Arrival   London, England
Ports of Voyage   Sydney; Melbourne; Albany; Durban; Cape Town
Ship Name   Suevic, White Star Dominion Line
Official Number   113456

Was she being sent back to UK for school as she is in the 1921 UK census, among a list of school pupils and staff as follows:

Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Nationality   Visitor, British Born
Age   12 Years 1 Month
Relation to Head   Pupil
Orphanhood   Father Dead
Estimated Birth Year   1909
Birth Place   Boonah, Queensland, Australia
Residence Date   1921
Residence Street Address   Clarendon House, 5 Argyle Road, Southport
Residence Place   Southport, Lancashire, England
Education   Whole-Time
Occupation   Student
Hesketh
Parliamentary Division   Southport Pb
Registration District   Ormskirk
Registration District Number   457
Sub registration district   Southport
Sub Registration District Number   6
Respondent   Miss Hoghen
Enumeration District Name   Southport Cb
Enumeration District   48
Schedule Type Code   Eee
Page number   3

Does this cover what you wanted to know?
Will dig a bit further

Judith

[judb]

The son died in Queensland:

Charles Campbell Swinburne Carr Baxter-Tyrie
Death date:14/10/1953
Mother's name:Rosemary Jones
Father/parent's name:Charles Campbell
Registration details:1953/C/4394

Judith

[sparrett]

I'm glad you read the opening post better than me Judith
I had the impression Rose Mary was born in an asylum.

Misunderstood!
Sue

[judb]

From TROVE

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39927885
Cairns Post, 4 March 1913
MRS:. TYRIE'S ILLNESS.
The many friends bf Dr. Baxter Tyrie will be glad to learn that yesterday 'he despatched an urgent telegram, from Sydney, conveying the news that Mrs. Tyrie had passed successfully through an operation,  and was doing well.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/42881683
Cairns Post 20 March 1914
BIRTH
BAXTER TYRIE.—At Abbott-street, Cairns, the wife of Dr. C. C. Baxter Tyrie—a daughter.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/40234583
Cairns Post, 1 Feb 1917
Death of Dr. Tyrie.
Mr. P. J. Doyle received an urgent wire on Wednesday -morning stating that Dr. Tyrie, formerly of' Cairns had died at Cootamundra.

There's many mentions of Dr Tyrie in Cairns but the others I saw didn't seem relevant.

Judith

[judb]

More from TROVE

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123529538
 The Gundagai Times and Tumut, Adelong and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser , Tue 6 Feb 1917 
The death occurred in the Cootamundra Hospital, on Wednesday morning of Dr. Charles Campbell
Baxter-Tyrie, of Harden, the cause of death being pneumonia. ' He was aged 45, and leaves a wife and five children— two sons and three daughters. His eldest son is now studying for the medical profession in Scotland.
The implication is that his wife is alive at this time.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113636025
Buried at Murrumburrah cemetery.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226218522
Government Gazette of the State of New South Wales, Fri 10 Aug 1917
Probate granted to Isabella Macaulay of Harden, sole executrix

Amendment:
I gave this UK electoral information in a previous post, but, in the light of this death and further records the information is for another couple
1921 Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie

Judith

[clancam37]

Hi Sparrett,

What was her mother's name?
Her Mother's details are a mystery, can find no trace of her Mum.  Her Father: Joseph Jones , occ: Marine Engineer, dec'd as at 1899.
Rootschatter judb has provided a lot of info ( see Below)
Obviously her mother was in an asylum at the time of the child's birth.

We really need more information to help.
Where and to whom did she marry?
Married Charles Baxter Tyrie, occ: Surgeon. He died 1917 Harden NSW.
Regards
clancam 37

Sue

[clancam37]

Hi Judith,
Thanks, appreciate this wealth of information.
Rose Mary Tyrie returned to live in the UK following the death of her Husband Charles in Harden NSW 1917. 
Two of their children chose to remain in Australia after their Father's death.
I have their details.
Missing information:  Rose birth details etc, Her Mother Roses Mary Jones early life, where born.  IN addition Rose may have been an Inmate of a Mental Institution in NSW about 1909.  As she lived in Cairns Queensland she may have been in a Mental Home there.  Her Husband Charles, a member of the Royal Navy served as Medical Officer on board an Australian Navy Ship early WW1 around New Guinea, then a German province.   

What do you need?
Kind regards
clancam37

I see:

Rose Mary Jones b 1878, registered Lambeth, Uk

Marriage:
27 Jul. 1899, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Rose Mary Jones, 20, spinster, no occ shown, residence: Well Bank (possibly Will Bank)
Charles Cambell Baxter Tyrie, 28, bachelor, surgeon, residence: Kinnaid House, Keighly
Father   Joseph Jones, marine engineer, deceased
Spouse Father   Charles Tyrie, gentleman, deceased
Register Type   Parish Register

1901 Census
Both at Victoria St,  Keighly, with baby 7 months - Charles C S Tyrie
His occupation Physician

1906 Electoral Roll (Australia)
both at Church St, Boonah - surname recorded as "Baxter-Tyrie". 
His occ: medical practitioner, hers: domestic duties

1909
both at Abbot St, Cairns. listed under "Tryrie" and both have Baxter listed as a forename. 
His occ: medical practitioner

Child's birth:
Caroline Dorothy Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Birth Date   5 Jun. 1908
Queensland, Australia
Father   Charles Campbell Baxter-Tyrie
Mother   Rosemary Jones
Page number   1442 #B017803

Not the same people
1921
Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie

There is this enigmatic entry in Arrivals
Name   Baxter Tyrie
Arrival Age   7
Birth Date   abt 1907
Port of Departure   Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date   12 Jul. 1914
Port of Arrival   London, England
Ports of Voyage   Sydney; Melbourne; Albany; Durban; Cape Town
Ship Name   Suevic, White Star Dominion Line
Official Number   113456

Was she being sent back to UK for school as she is in the 1921 UK census, among a list of school pupils and staff as follows:

Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Nationality   Visitor, British Born
Age   12 Years 1 Month
Relation to Head   Pupil
Orphanhood   Father Dead
Estimated Birth Year   1909
Birth Place   Boonah, Queensland, Australia
Residence Date   1921
Residence Street Address   Clarendon House, 5 Argyle Road, Southport
Residence Place   Southport, Lancashire, England
Education   Whole-Time
Occupation   Student
Hesketh
Parliamentary Division   Southport Pb
Registration District   Ormskirk
Registration District Number   457
Sub registration district   Southport
Sub Registration District Number   6
Respondent   Miss Hoghen
Enumeration District Name   Southport Cb
Enumeration District   48
Schedule Type Code   Eee
Page number   3

Does this cover what you wanted to know?
Will dig a bit further

Judith