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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 31 January 26 01:45 GMT (UK) »
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1911
on Bottesford Moor

Charles MATTHEWS  head, 55, Rag & Bone Dealer  9 children 8 living. b Bolton Lincs
Emily 58 born Winteringham, Lincs
Albert 15 b Boston
Ellen 13 b Gainsboro’
Percy 11 b Blyth, Nottinghamshire
Emily 8 b Scunthorpe
Ernest 5, b Barrow   

Emily born Scunthorpe about 1903
She married Harry SMITH at Gainsborough in 1920

in 1921 - Caravan, Stackyard, Scunthorpe, Lincs

Hary SMITH 20 y 6 mths b Kings Lynn, Norfolk works for John Rivenby Removal Contractor
Emly wife 20 y 4 mths b Scunthorpe, Lincs
Henery 8 mths b Scunthorpe, Lincs
            
In 1939 this  SMITH family is living at 40 Wilson Street, Gainsborough
at number 38 is Edward A. MATHEWSON and his family dob 15 Dec 1892 - not sure where he fits in yet, but I cannot believe he doesn’t.

There is also a BOSWELL family at number 12 Wilson Street, Gainsborough

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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 31 January 26 06:54 GMT (UK) »
There is a lot of information to be found with multipe extended intermarried families.

A google is profitable. for example. https://reimagininglincs.blogs.lincoln.ac.uk/2022/06/19/gypsies-in-lincolnshire-c-1850-1939-part-i/

Let us know if you need further help. Don't want to take the fun away for you!


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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 31 January 26 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Goodness me, i think i need to re re-read all that a few times to figure it all out. Thank you for all your help, your all defo on the right track and i think it is the correct Green family. Just need to put all the pieces together xx

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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 31 January 26 11:07 GMT (UK) »
A tree on Ancestry has him born on 24th July 1906 to George W Green, b 1875, and Elizabeth Matthews, 1891-1980.

George William Green born Q1 1875 in Gainsborough mmn Bean. Sibling also mmn Bean.

Son of John Green and Mary, but no marriage found.

The tree has the Mathews family going back to 1594.


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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 31 January 26 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi all sorry its me again. I have pieced together everything above and its looking good, but i am now stuck again on the father, George Frederick Green born (c) 1885 who was married to Elizabeth Matthewson. His birth is recorded on the 1939 register as 22 July 1889 living in Gainsborough, and born in Worksop according to the 1911 census. However there are 3 births in Worksop and none of them match the birthdate on the 1939 register. I doesnt help that they are no where to be seen in 1921 and there is no marriage for him and Elizabeth, the death for George F Green in 1948 Gainsborough puts his age at 63 so that would be 1885 ish if its correct, any ideas on what to do next please as i am fast running out x

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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 31 January 26 21:39 GMT (UK) »
This find a grave has him age 65 on death in 1948

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/278527663/charles-mathewson

Must be him as buried with father in law Charles. Checked plot number and both are named.  If you look at original it looks died aged 65  (bc 1883)

Added - death info only as good as informant knowledge

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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 31 January 26 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi thanks for replying, i have just got the digital copy of this certificate and it is correct, the first age of 73 has been crossed out on the actual certificate and replaced with age 63 so making his birth around 1885ish x

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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 31 January 26 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked into the possibility concerning reply #12 by DCB to help rule in/out.

There was a possible son John born to couple that maybe one of the 2 children that died.

GREEN, JOHN    mmn   MATTHEWSON 
GRO Reference: 1905  M Quarter in LINCOLN  Volume 07A  Page 495

There may also be a daughter born 1912

GREEN, RANEY  mmn  MATTHESON 
GRO Reference: 1912  S Quarter in GLANFORD BRIGG  Volume 07A  Page 1296

Added - possible death

GREEN, JOHN   age    0 
GRO Reference: 1905  S Quarter in GOOLE  Volume 09C  Page 519

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Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
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Re: Looking for George Frederick Green born 1906ish
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 31 January 26 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Good possible, one to be ruled in or out

GREEN, GEORGE  FREDERICK mmn    BARLOW 
GRO Reference: 1883  S Quarter in WORKSOP  Volume 07B  Page 28

Mary Harriett Barlow married John Robert Green, 4 Feb 1875. Marriage at Worksop, Priory (St. Mary & St. Cuthbert), Nottinghamshire,

1891 - Worksop Notts

John Green 39   Head, Blacksmith
Mary H Green 33   Wife
Sarah E Green 13   Daughter
John W Green 11   Son
George F Green   7   Son
Thomas J Green 5   Son
Walter H Green 2   Son
John Green 68   Father, Blacksmith
Sarah Green 71   Mother
John Caine 28   Visitor

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland