Hi
Valk, I am asking about this person Hannah Shawceoss / Shallcross [?] as I need to prove she isn't the correct person and not just by my saying so. I need proof. one way or the other. but there is smoke there as ther are DNA connections to James Booth
David: re Fanny in my family.
As far as I can tell documents say she was born in 1837. To whom I have no idea as nothing fits anywhere.
Now here is what I know about her, all on here somewhere else. Ages ago, but this Shawcross name is very new.
She didn't die as Fanny Massey.
She died as Fanny Craggs in 1886 in Cullingworth, Keighley Yorkshire.
She was not married to the father of her children all 5 of them. He was her partner. John Craggs.
I have never found a marriage certificate for this pair. But there are questions about that.
At the end of the document in the margin is a reference to a Stat Dec made 3weeks after her death and burial.
It says that she was not John's wife but his housekeeper . Given that I now know he had a marriage, albeit it illegal as the lady was already married. and they also had a child. that statemenet could be correct. i havenot been able to get a copy of that declaration.
John before Fanny died moved in with another married woman in Sept 1886 until sometime around 1891 after, that he disappeared.
The Stat Dec was signed by her 16 yr old son and a fellow called Jabez Crabtree also in Cullingworth.
In 1881 I have her on the Census at Overwryesdale Lancashire which is way up on the norther part out past Yorkshire Dales. It say she was from Nottingham, Nottinghamshire.
I do not have anything for 1871 or 1861.
Now her son's birth Certificate which I have a full copy of, says that the mother /informant was Fanny Craggs, Late Kelly, formerly Massey. I have previously been informed that it means she was previously married or known asK elly and was born Massey.
I cannot prove a Kelly connection to her except by here-say which is unacceptable but could actually be true. DNA might someday do that.
My grandmother's birth Certificate has similar information except the Kelly connection. She was born at Mosdale Moor near Hawes. John was a stone mason.
However I cannot see that any of this will help here. but here's hoping....
Essnell.
Dundee, your post came through while I was typing.
Thanks I will follow up on --- Fanny married to Hoult.
Yes the Fanny Craggs is the right person. I have all of that and have just posted about it above.
Thanks for helping
Essnell
