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Hi everyone,

I am trying to find out more about Hanna Shawcross.
I am not sure when she was born but around 1800 or possibly 1790's. 

it's possible that she is my great grandmother's mother.

There is one person from the more recent and living family members who has placed this lady into this position in her online tree.

However there is no documentation supporting this . I cannot find a connection at all. 
I have previously looked at the birth record for a daughter of hers and that never added up either.

I keep getting tangled up in the Booth family so I am still mystified as to where this actually becomes a reality or an incorrect trail. 
I can give more info later if needed but don't want to start from bad information.

Anyone here wiling to take a look at this.  It's possible it was looked at about 20 yrs ago with no success. 

Thanks for any input . 
Essnell






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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 January 26 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Esnell,

  Hi again, can you share a bit more detail, and you say you keep getting mixed up with the Booth family, which one? There are many ….
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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 January 26 22:46 GMT (UK) »


 "it's possible that she is my great grandmother's mother."

If you are researching the origins of the great grandmother you need to give all the information you have on that ancestor.

 What is the earliest evidence you have of her.....,marriage record?, mother on a birth certificate?...what?

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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 00:07 GMT (UK) »
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it's possible that she is my great grandmother's mother.

Who was your great grandmother?  Name/birth year/birthplace etc etc   

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There is one person from the more recent and living family members who has placed this lady into this position in her online tree.

There are numerous trees on Ancestry with misinformation because people "claim" ancestors without doing thorough research.  Ignore what the tree says & do your own research
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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 07:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi All three of you.

Firstly: my great grandmother was Fanny Massey, supposedly born 1837.I do not have a certificate. I have found in the past two possible births for her. one in Basford and one in Altrincham.  I have followed both of these in the past but neither fit into the story. 
She died in 1886.Cullingworth , keighley, Yorrkshire all confirmed.
From Fanny forwards I have all   the information documented,
It's finding her parents that is the mystery. 

So we have a possible candidate in Hannah Shawcross. she had two children in Altrincham. 
Fanny in Sept Qtr. 1837 Vol19 pg 7 
Elizabeth Dec Qtr. 1839 Vol 19 pg 11

the first one is the right name and the right yeatr.   but.... the rest does not connect.

 I have two DNA matches that might be useful one is Bennett.  and off his match list is the other. I will get  back to this one later.

Other information is this.  it looks like that Hannah Shawcross at some point was  Hannah Massey.
 
to the DNA   Tony Bennett:  his attached tree has 390 persons. 

He has James Booth 1844-  married to Hannah Massey -- this person was born 1845 Kirkby Bleak Hall, Nottinghamshire.   Hannah is said to have died 1887, Basford, Nottingham.

Hannah born 1845  gr ref:  1845 June Quarter, Basford MMN Wilton V 15 p468  I have not found a Massey /Wilton marriage. But could she have had a younger sister???

James parents :  father: Isaac Booth Mother Hannah Booth {{ she was born Flint}}

If there is a younger sister who was born 1837 that would match the DNA and then Ms. Shawcross disappears??   

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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 08:02 GMT (UK) »
Essnell,

      Hi, so did she die as Fanny Massey? Who did she marry, do you have her in the Census, this should give you place of birth.
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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Maybe the Shawcross connection has come from the 1841 census where you have fanny massey in the household of Fanny Showcross in Mere Cheshire. A certicate (mmn Shawcross) and baptism exist for that Fanny Massey.
James Massey married Hannah Shallcross in 1832
Since you started off asking about Hannnah Shawcross she was baptised as Hannah Shallcross 1813.  Parents Joshua and Frances.  Mere. All consistent with 1841 census.

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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Valk and everyone,
I do have that certificate and that is what set me off looking for Hannah Shawcross . It is definitely Shawcross
So if James Massey married Hannah Shallcross in 1832, then Fanny's birth fits that but....on FindMyPast Fanny married Holt.  and died in 1882
So maybe this isn't my Fanny Massey.   

Oh dear ???
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Re: Hanna Shawcross - anyone here researching this lady born possibly Altrincham.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 11:08 GMT (UK) »
So why did you ask us about Hannah Shawcross? if you have already eliminated this particular Fanney Massey. Who did your Fanny Massey marry? Where has she come from in your research?