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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 January 26 10:40 GMT (UK) »
This 1834 map pre-dates Dean's Court - shows Drum Street and an early Brook Row.
https://viewer.library.wales/4669575#?xywh=1851%2C3143%2C3438%2C1463

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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 January 26 11:10 GMT (UK) »
I am a little confused as to where Ellen Owen fits in?

Is this the 1881 Census for Catherine?
No 17 Deans Court, Bangor
Catherine Owens 46 Head Widow
John Owens 23 Son Unm Pork Butcher   
Robert Owens 16 Son Unm Pork Butcher
All born Bangor

And 1901 same address:
Catherine Owen   69 Head Widow born Llanfar P G, Anglesey
Robert Owen 23 Grandson

1871 Catherine is Married, a Nurse, living in a Surgeons Household, born c 1834 Bangor.

1861 we have;
5 Deans Court
Robert Owens 34 Head Mar Labourer
Catherine Owens 26 Wife Mar born Llanfair, Anglesey
Elizabeth Owens 5 Daughter
John Owens 3 Son
Ellen Owens 14 Servant
David Owens 21 Lodger


1891 Catherine has Sons Methusalem and Robert with her;

OWENS, METHUSALEM mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1862  J Quarter in BANGOR  Volume 11B  Page 546

OWENS, ROBERT mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in BANGOR  Volume 11B  Page 519

OWENS, JOHN mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in BANGOR  Volume 11B  Page 463

1871 Census
Robert Owens 46 Head
Elizabeth Owens 15 Daughter
John Owens 12 Son
Jane Owens 10 Daughter
Methrusalem Owens 8 Son
Robert Owens 6 Son
Image has Mother away working as a Nurse
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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #11 on: Monday 26 January 26 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Methuslem OWENS Baptism 01 Jun 1862 St Deiniol - Cathedral, Bangor
Parents ROBERT/CATHERINE Father a Labourer
Abode Dean St
(FreeREG)
Only Bapt I can see on there to them.   

Although 1861 has 2 children to Robert/Catherine it appears they may not have married until 1860
FreeBMD has June 1860 Reg;
Owens  Robert Carnarvon 11b 889
Williams Catherine same reg
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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #12 on: Monday 26 January 26 20:19 GMT (UK) »
I am a little confused as to where Ellen Owen fits in?

Is this the 1881 Census for Catherine?
No 17 Deans Court, Bangor
Catherine Owens 46 Head Widow
John Owens 23 Son Unm Pork Butcher   
Robert Owens 16 Son Unm Pork Butcher
All born Bangor

And 1901 same address:
Catherine Owen   69 Head Widow born Llanfar P G, Anglesey
Robert Owen 23 Grandson

1871 Catherine is Married, a Nurse, living in a Surgeons Household, born c 1834 Bangor.

1861 we have;
5 Deans Court
Robert Owens 34 Head Mar Labourer
Catherine Owens 26 Wife Mar born Llanfair, Anglesey
Elizabeth Owens 5 Daughter
John Owens 3 Son
Ellen Owens 14 Servant
David Owens 21 Lodger


1891 Catherine has Sons Methusalem and Robert with her;

OWENS, METHUSALEM mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1862  J Quarter in BANGOR  Volume 11B  Page 546

OWENS, ROBERT mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in BANGOR  Volume 11B  Page 519

OWENS, JOHN mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in BANGOR  Volume 11B  Page 463

1871 Census
Robert Owens 46 Head
Elizabeth Owens 15 Daughter
John Owens 12 Son
Jane Owens 10 Daughter
Methrusalem Owens 8 Son
Robert Owens 6 Son
Image has Mother away working as a Nurse


Thank you so much for all the help.

Ellen is a bit of a confusing one. I will have to keep a look out for her name during my family tree search and see if she shows up again
Catherine can be found 1881 at 17 deans court  Widow birth 1835
Living with her
John son  23 born 1858 Pork butcher
Robert  son 16 born 1865 Pork butcher
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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #13 on: Monday 26 January 26 20:36 GMT (UK) »
I think I have found a possible marriage for Catherine and Robert earlier than 1860

 
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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 January 26 21:54 GMT (UK) »
You could try "Welsh Journals". Same again just pop "Dean's Court" in Search - 27 hits.

Note - I am not trying to associate with the surname Owen, just info re "Dean's Court"

https://journals.library.wales/

NOTE - you could try searching Welsh newspapers for your "rellie" but you'll appreciate it's a very common name - more hits than you can shake a stick at. That's when the filters might help.

Thank you for helping pointing in the right direction with searching.
You are right it is a very common surname which doesn’t help 🤪🤪
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Warhurst

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Farren
Sweeny
Mclaughin

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Owens
Davies
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Re: Deans Court Bangor- Catherine Owen
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 27 January 26 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Yes that Marriage looks more likely :)
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