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Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« on: Sunday 25 January 26 16:09 GMT (UK) »
I can't find any trace of her after her marriage to John Donaghue (aged 22 and a Royal Navy stoker) on the 4th on November 1920.
The marriage certificate names her as Edith Mary Coomber aged 24 with Frank Coomber (deceased) as father.
Her birth registration names her as Edith Mary Cocks on the 18th November 1890 with a father Charles Cocks.
Her mother Elizabeth Ann Coomber (nee Cocks) was estranged from her husband Jethro Coomber when Edith was born.
She fostered two of her three illegitimate children with her marriage witness David Edwards.
I'm hoping someone is better than I am at finding her after the marriage.
Coomber, Scrimgeour, Shiel, Thiel,

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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 January 26 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Edith mary  probably believed that Frank coomber WAS  her father if no one had told her otherwise

Charles "Cocks "was probably fictional to make herself more respectable
Unless Elizabeth Ann married someone with same surname
Have you found Frank or Jethro COOMBER
on any other records
 
Probably worth orderinng the original birth certificate to get more information.

Baptism.records sometimes give alternative information .

Where when were Edith Mary s children born

Have you searched 1921 census

& 1939 records


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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 January 26 16:36 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism.for edith mary cox with father francis henry cox mother elizabeth ann
20 jan 1890 in deal. kent

Could that be her ...so Frank Coomber Actually Francis H COX

This couple had royal marines connections 3 children
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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 January 26 16:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brigidmac. I have the full tree for her parents Jethro and Elizabeth Ann.  The whole scenario takes place in Devonport and I have all the birth and mariage certificates for them all including Edith Mary, which I quoted from in the original post. Her children were Margaret Elizabeth Mary Ethel Jane Coomber, Charles Frederick James Coomber (my father) and Thomas William Henry Coomber. I hold the birth and marriage certificates for both Margaret and Charles but nothing but the birth certificate for Thomas. None have a father on the birth certificate
I agree that the father's names are all fictitious (as is her birth date on the marriage certificate)
The past history is well covered but after 1920 I can't trace her or her husband John Donaghue.
Both of her children also used relations names for the father when getting married.
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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 January 26 17:12 GMT (UK) »
WHERE was Edith born?
WHERE did she marry in 1920?
WHERE and WHEN were her children born?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 January 26 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Edith Mary was born in Devonport (sub district St. Aubyn) at 58 James Street on 18/11/1890.
She married in Devonport on the 4th November 1920.
Her children were all born in Devonport on the 24/4/1912, 8/2/1915 and 16/10/1916.
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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 January 26 17:46 GMT (UK) »
In 1921 I think Edith's husband John is listed as 19 yrs and 6 months, married,  a First Class Stoker b Cork on board ship off Cairo

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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 January 26 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Did you find her husbands parents & siblings in 1921 & 1939 ? Could she have been with them? With or without her sailor husband .

Im a great believer in DNA  you might find a match who is your half cousin who knows more about her .

Could she have had more children ?
I suppose youve already looked for DONAGHUE births with mothers maiden name Cooks cox or Coomber
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Re: Help in finding my paternal grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 January 26 18:04 GMT (UK) »
That's interesting Kay. He was a stoker but he said he was 22 when he married, and John Donaghue seems to be a popular name in Ireland and the Armed Forces. I'd be interested in following it up though if you could give me your source.
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