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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 15 February 26 12:17 GMT (UK) »
As I said earlier, I still think that Arthur Graham deceased is likely to be Arthur Grimes/Grines.
The applications take place over a number of years.
I wonder what happened to Nellie? No mention of her in the applications.
There is an E C, 14 yr old schoolgirl in Londonderry Workhouse in 1911 but that is assuming a lot - Ellen Cairns for example.

The Valuation Revision books, Boveagh, , show Arthur Grimes - the change of occupier to him is in red and 1911 is annotated on the record.
It is then changed and annotated to Andrew Kearns in 1922 and amended to Arthur Kearns in 1933, I think.

I must stress though that I am not that familiar with the books.
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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 15 February 26 15:23 GMT (UK) »
The newspaper article confirming Arthur's intention to emigrate was in July 1911, the newspaper article selling crops for representatives of Arthur was in July 1913, I couldn't find any evidence of Arthur actually emigrating (eg. in manifests and emigration records), so that annotation of "1911" in the valuation revision books and the death for Arthur Graham in October 1912 would fit nicely, the cause of death says 6 months certified, I wouldn't be surprised if he felt the beginning of the end starting in 1911, around the time he was making his big plans.

I've been trying for some time (and failing) to find Nellie/Ellen post 1901, in terms of a death record, a marriage record, or a 1911 Ireland census record.  And Robert Kearns remains a mystery, the fact he was protestant makes me doubt the existence of a marriage.


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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 15 February 26 19:00 GMT (UK) »

I've been trying for some time (and failing) to find Nellie/Ellen post 1901, in terms of a death record, a marriage record, or a 1911 Ireland census record. 


Her death was posted in reply #2.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05154/4421264.pdf
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 15 February 26 20:22 GMT (UK) »

I've been trying for some time (and failing) to find Nellie/Ellen post 1901, in terms of a death record, a marriage record, or a 1911 Ireland census record. 


Her death was posted in reply #2.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05154/4421264.pdf

In our latest posts, gaffy and I are referring to the child transcribed as ‘Willie’ in 1901 who is likely to also be the child of Sarah and Robert Kearns.
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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 15 February 26 20:55 GMT (UK) »

I've been trying for some time (and failing) to find Nellie/Ellen post 1901, in terms of a death record, a marriage record, or a 1911 Ireland census record. 


Her death was posted in reply #2.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05154/4421264.pdf

In our latest posts, gaffy and I are referring to the child transcribed as ‘Willie’ in 1901 who is likely to also be the child of Sarah and Robert Kearns.

Sorry. Yes, I see you briefly mentioned her once, but reference to that Ellen was not clear in Gaffy's post.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 15 February 26 21:07 GMT (UK) »
 :) No worries. I just recall Willie is really Nellie as we both referred to her.
I thought she had been forgotten in all our searching so I tried to bring her back - thus the brief mention of that workhouse record.

In fact,you pointed the name difference out in reply #3. Thank you.
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